As a man I would get sick of being called a coward

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  • Ray*
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    #61
    It doesn't matter who is calling him a chicken, whether it's skip Bayless who doesn't know much about boxing or Fat dan. It's still all the same, his reputation hasn't taken a dive, I think he quite likes it because he sells even more, casual fans want to see who this ducker really is, I think he should stay silent and just let things play out the way it is at the moment.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Ray*
      I don't think he gives a toss, I think he quite enjoys it really, it gets his name out and makes him feel relevant at every single opportunity. He asked for the fight he gets called a coward, he got on the phone to make a personal plea to Pacquiao himself, that's not the actions of a man that is "Scared or ducking" but the actions of a man who was probably reaching breaking point and wanted Pac to see what they would both make in terms of money, still Pacman decline... So I really don't blame Mayweather for moving on and laughing at Pac current situation.
      No but why does everything he does has to be behind closed doors?? On Twitter? He has no once came out with a legit explanation telling his side of the story.

      Explain the failed negogiations to people, he always gives us a gimped story that no one can really follow.

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        #63
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
        I dunno...maybe, but that's not the way I understand it. The way I see it, although both guys share some guilt, Floyd is mainly to blame for holding this fight up. In the end, it doesn't really matter who's at fault. It's all spilled milk....
        I don't see it that way, we have 2 fights with egos plus a promoter that wants to protect his cash cow, the fight was offered and turn down a number of times by Pacman, so if Mayweather want to have fun with him then I don't blame him.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Ray*
          It doesn't matter who is calling him a chicken, whether it's skip Bayless who doesn't know much about boxing or Fat dan. It's still all the same, his reputation hasn't taken a dive, I think he quite likes it because he sells even more, casual fans want to see who this ducker really is, I think he should stay silent and just let things play out the way it is at the moment.
          Ahhh what a weird guy, what happened to boxers wanting to be great, like Ray Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran...but those guys did care about Legacy.

          I'm just saying, there is a way to care about LEGACY and MONEY at the same time, and Pacquiao would be legacy and money. Win win sistuation

          And im not dis*****g the TR and GBP beef, but as far as what they call Public image or damage control, Floyd just doesn't seem concerned.

          Maybe it's like you say, it makes him money.

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            #65
            Originally posted by MGMGRAND
            No but why does everything he does has to be behind closed doors?? On Twitter? He has no once came out with a legit explanation telling his side of the story.

            Explain the failed negogiations to people, he always gives us a gimped story that no one can really follow.
            He owns no one an explanation, he doesn't need to justify anything to anyone, because he is already crucified, his whole career he has been crucified and it worked out great for him, so why change now? He isn't a "good guy" in terms of boxing like Hatton or Pacquiao, he has zero image to protect so he doesn't need to feed the media in the way Arum has to do to protect Pac career.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ray*
              He owns no one an explanation, he doesn't need to justify anything to anyone, because he is already crucified, his whole career he has been crucified and it worked out great for him, so why change now? He isn't a "good guy" in terms of boxing like Hatton or Pacquiao, he has zero image to protect so he doesn't need to feed the media in the way Arum has to do to protect Pac career.
              lol, what does that even mean? "Protect Pac career"? Dude is a legend. He can lose every fight from here on out and nothing changes.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Ray*
                I don't see it that way, we have 2 fights with egos plus a promoter that wants to protect his cash cow, the fight was offered and turn down a number of times by Pacman, so if Mayweather want to have fun with him then I don't blame him.
                Yeah, but why did Manny turn the fight down? Perhaps he was being asked to concede too much? If Floyd was being unreasonable in his requests, then you can't blame Pacquiao for turning him down.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by MGMGRAND
                  Ahhh what a weird guy, what happened to boxers wanting to be great, like Ray Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran...but those guys did care about Legacy.

                  I'm just saying, there is a way to care about LEGACY and MONEY at the same time, and Pacquiao would be legacy and money. Win win sistuation

                  And im not dis*****g the TR and GBP beef, but as far as what they call Public image or damage control, Floyd just doesn't seem concerned.

                  Maybe it's like you say, it makes him money.
                  Ray Leonard did thing his own way, he retired and came out when he wanted to, he did worse than Mayweather and that's why he doesn't say much when they ask him about Mayweather apart from he would beat him in they were in the same era. Hagler can say whatever he wants but he was misinformed when he gave an interview regarding Mayweather asking Pac to take a test whilst he wouldn't go through the same test. Like I said in my last post Mayweather doesn't have to worry about career assassination because he isn't considered a "Good guy"...

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by MGMGRAND
                    Forget being a boxer, but as a man if people have been calling me a coward, doubting me, mocking me, there should only be so much that you can take.

                    As a Floyd fan, im starting to question if he really is scared of Manny, why can't
                    He go on ESPN and say I want Pacquiao.... Cut the twitter crap, the facebook crap... And go on Espn with Skip Bayless there and state how you feel. Not a side room with Stephen A Smith.

                    Especially if Floyd felt that he could beat him, why is it so hard for Mayweather to put his foot down?
                    We'll real men don't have to fight everytime people call them bad names as a man you don't have to Prove anything to others. that's all kids stuff

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by wonder187
                      We'll real men don't have to fight everytime people call them bad names as a man you don't have to Prove anything to others. that's all kids stuff
                      You do if you are a BOXER or in MMA, so aslong as no HW is calling a WW out to a fight, or something rediculous, you do. If it is warranted.

                      And it is warranted. If you can make LEGAL money, in a sport IE as boxing, then no it's not kids stuff.

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