Hey guys who do you think mayweather will fight in 2014?

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  • Humean
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Golovkin's headlining is due to HBO pushing him to fill the vacuum they had last year losing floyd/canelo/broner, manny and sergio out, etc. Quillin was never going to headline over the GBP stars. Yes he's been knocking people out, but I think we can agree the opposition wasn't much of a threat.

    Maybe so, but GGG would aslo be fighting at 154, a weight we, at least I, haven't seen him at.

    AGain, I can respect your opinion, its just awfully hard to suggest no GBP fighter, fighters who have beaten better comp than GGG but are just smaller, are not acceptable opponents. You don't have to like the options -but to say they are not credible is something else.
    I know there are differences between Golovkin and Quillin in terms of how their respective networks promote and view them but the reality is that Golovkin has become something of a star and Quillin has not. Thefore at this moment, even if you leave aside how you personally rate either fighter, that Golovkin is by far the bigger name. Golovkin and Quillin have both been knocking out guys who rank around 6-30 at middleweight, unfortunately as of yet neither have fought one of the best middleweights. Golovkin's trainer has said he'd fight at 154, I imagine that was to keep the door open for a possible big money fight at 154 should it ever arise. I imagine he could make 154 or 152 with the right preparation but granted it could certainly weaken him for the fight if he does it wrong and if they have overestimated their abilities to get to that weight.

    Maybe I was wrong to suggest that Maidana and Garcia are not credible if credible means something like 'deservng', what I really mean is that I don't think they stand any chance and therefore I'm not interested in seeing it. Are you interested in seeing Mayweather-Maidana or Mayweather-Garcia? Assuming they are possible surely Pacquiao, Martinez and Golovkin are more interesting opponents? I'm not as sure if a Bradley fight is more interesting than a Garcia fight but it might be.

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #42
      Originally posted by Pacquiao'd
      The nerve of a tard when your god fights losers
      Manny will bring more money for Mrs Floyd!

      Manny fights nobodies so he aint nothing but a shlt fighter...but he will bring more money for Mrs Floyd!

      Manny doesnt have the same killer instinct and is washed up. But still brings the biggest payday!

      Floyd will beat manny...EASY! As well as be the biggest payday for big bad Floyd!

      But Floyd wont fight him for all the Money. The lions share. Not even to keep his championship belt. Easy money. Less risk. MORE MONEY THAN ANY FIGHTER he can face.

      But he wont fight him.

      In a nut shell. Floyd is a Coward!

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #43
        Originally posted by Humean
        I know there are differences between Golovkin and Quillin in terms of how their respective networks promote and view them but the reality is that Golovkin has become something of a star and Quillin has not. Thefore at this moment, even if you leave aside how you personally rate either fighter, that Golovkin is by far the bigger name. Golovkin and Quillin have both been knocking out guys who rank around 6-30 at middleweight, unfortunately as of yet neither have fought one of the best middleweights. Golovkin's trainer has said he'd fight at 154, I imagine that was to keep the door open for a possible big money fight at 154 should it ever arise. I imagine he could make 154 or 152 with the right preparation but granted it could certainly weaken him for the fight if he does it wrong and if they have overestimated their abilities to get to that weight.

        Maybe I was wrong to suggest that Maidana and Garcia are not credible if credible means something like 'deservng', what I really mean is that I don't think they stand any chance and therefore I'm not interested in seeing it. Are you interested in seeing Mayweather-Maidana or Mayweather-Garcia? Assuming they are possible surely Pacquiao, Martinez and Golovkin are more interesting opponents? I'm not as sure if a Bradley fight is more interesting than a Garcia fight but it might be.
        I think "standing a chance" is something each poster decides for themselves. SOme have said Manny and sergio don't stand a chance at this point. I think we'd both disagree.

        I'd prefer sergio or manny over both. GGG is no different than Quillin IMO and I'm not particulalry interested in either. A bradley fight would be compelling, relevant, and good IMO.

        If the only floyd fights that are interesting are those that you think he could lose that brings me back to my intial question- do you apply is this standard to other fighters or just floyd?

        Its just mind boggling to think Tim Bradley-undefeated ww belt holder and a top 5 p4p fighter does not stand a chance against floyd-the lineal ww champ.

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        • Humean
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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          I think "standing a chance" is something each poster decides for themselves. SOme have said Manny and sergio don't stand a chance at this point. I think we'd both disagree.

          I'd prefer sergio or manny over both. GGG is no different than Quillin IMO and I'm not particulalry interested in either. A bradley fight would be compelling, relevant, and good IMO.

          If the only floyd fights that are interesting are those that you think he could lose that brings me back to my intial question- do you apply is this standard to other fighters or just floyd?

          Its just mind boggling to think Tim Bradley-undefeated ww belt holder and a top 5 p4p fighter does not stand a chance against floyd-the lineal ww champ.
          I don't know if I think Mayweather would lose to any of the four fighters I want him to fight, I just think they are the four that would actually give Mayweather good competition. Bradley is not undefeated to me, he lost to Pacquiao and I think he may have lost to Provodnikov although I can see why the judges and most others scored it for Bradley. I think Bradley stands more of a chance than Garcia although I am less confident of that than that the other three guys standing at least half decent chances againt Mayweather. The standard I apply to Mayweather is not the one you are suggesting, the standard I am applying is 'who could give Mayweather genuine competition within the relevant weight classes'. The standard for Mayweather in that regard is higher because he is the best fighter in the world.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            If floyd signed to fight JMM or Tim it would be seen by most posters, especially you, as the usual "cherrypicking" blah blah blah. These fighters are both ranked ahead of manny p4p.

            .
            Stop making excuses........Bradley and JMM are better than Ortiz and Guerrero so Floyd clearly hasn't got a problem with constant cherry picking and people having a go at his cherry picking way.

            Bradley wouldn't be considered a cherry pick for Floyd as he is better than anyone Floyd has faced of late. But on the other hand you could say he was a cherry pick as Floyd is favoured to beat him, just like Pac was.
            So therefore Floyd should fight someone hes not favoured to beat and if that person he isn't favoured to beat is in a higher weight division then Floyd should try be more ambitious.
            But maybe first things first. Beat peoples hes favourite to beat but scared to death of like Pac first.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 12-23-2013, 07:38 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Its just mind boggling to think Tim Bradley-undefeated ww belt holder and a top 5 p4p fighter does not stand a chance against floyd-the lineal ww champ.
              Stop kissing FLoyds ass will you for a second. Its not mind boggling to have Floyd favourite against Bradley, as Pac already wiped the floor with Bradley, with Bradley ending up in a wheelchair.
              Because Pac wiped the floor with Bradley and JMM made it very controversial for Bradley why shouldn't Floyd be favourite? It still would be a good fight though. Bradley is tougher than Ortiz and Guerrero and Canelo so stop making excuses and whining.

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