Mayweather - how scared was he of Margarito?

[WESS]

Floyd contradicted himself several times throughout 07-10. Remember the same guy who fought Ortiz and Guerrero said that prime Cotto and Margarito were not "big enough" to fight him. They didn't "bring enough to the table."

He's about to fight Khan but other guys were "just knocked out", "lost 2 out of his last 4 fights."

I respect Floyd as much as anybody. He's a top 15 fighter of all time. I also realize that he is a businessman and he knows how to pick his fights.

Right and don't act like you didn't notice the second Cotto left Bob Arum the fight was made. Just like the second Bradley, JMM and Mosley signed with TR the fight with Pac was made.

Business is business. People love to ignore one side of it while crying about the other.

[AL_Camino]

Lol yea he looked scared as fack in that video

[r.burgundy]

Floyd contradicted himself several times throughout 07-10. Remember the same guy who fought Ortiz and Guerrero said that prime Cotto and Margarito were not "big enough" to fight him. They didn't "bring enough to the table."

He's about to fight Khan but other guys were "just knocked out", "lost 2 out of his last 4 fights."

I respect Floyd as much as anybody. He's a top 15 fighter of all time. I also realize that he is a businessman and he knows how to pick his fights.

he didnt say that.he said he wanted 10 mil for cotto,bob would only guarantee 7 mil.thus no fight

bob said floyd wouldnt commit to margacheato because he was waiting on the winner of oscar/mayorga.are you trying to say cheato was bigger than oscar?

[dynomyte1444]

When people say things like this, it automatically lets me know that they dont know **** about boxing.

[Spoon23]

When people say things like this, it automatically lets me know that they dont know **** about boxing.

Lol and you do?? You've been here since 06, and your still red hehehe! Tell you what. Learn the basics of boxing first and maybe you can crawl back to being green. Coz no one respects your opinion here dude. Serious talk

[Ray*]

So scared that he also offered to fight Cotto and Hatton with $2M more..

[UTEP]

I wrote this in a previous thread but it applies just the same for this one.

Chronological order of fights that did and didn't happen but could have:

I'll take a crack at this.

Without giving reasons or explanations on why certain fights didn't happen or whose fault it was. He didn't fight Kostya Tszyu while passing through the Light-Welterweight division. Without pointing fingers, that fight could've been hard to make because of Tszyu (the real 140 champ), but it also didn't help that Floyd was fond of the green WBC belts and his mentality was/is that the guy with the green belt is the real champion.

Statistically, he was right in choosing Baldomir over Margarito in that Baldomir was recognized as the real Welterweight champ after upsetting Judah. But subjectively, as a WBO Title holder, Margarito was a top welterweight for a much longer period than Baldomir - who just recently became champion. And considering that he still took the time to fight Judah (the former champion coming off of a loss) for the IBF belt which Zab only kept because Baldomir didn't pay the IBF's sanctioning fee, some can say that he could've done the same with Margarito. Now, the timing is problematic because after Baldomir, the big money fighter (Delahoya) came calling and who would turn that down after the Baldomir fight (which fans in attendance walked out on).

He did manage to get in another fight after Oscar by beating Ricky Hatton, which was a good fight and a good victory over a undefeated fighter, albeit a failed Welterweight who took his balls back to 140 after almost losing to light-punching boxer Louis Collazo for the IBF Welterweight title. So even though he made a defense against P4P guy, his first Welterweight title defense was against a failed welterweight who wasn't even a 147-contender/title holder.

That's ok though because you can always fight the Margarito's and the up and coming Cotto afterwards right? No, because he took two year layoff and the top contenders all fought each other in a round robin of sorts with Mosley coming out on top at the end of it all (having lost to Cotto, Cotto having lost to Margarito and Margarito losing to Mosley who was scheduled to defend against Berto with the fight ending up cancelled). So after facing a Lightweight Champion in Marquez who moved up two weight divisions (not a top Welterweight or even a 147 contender) after a two year layoff.... technically like with Baldomir, he did the right thing and faced Mosley therefore you can't criticize him. Then he did make a title defense against (technically) a top contender in Victor Ortiz - who did grab his WBC belt while he was taking another lengthy break, but like Baldomir before, Ortiz is again a new comer, while ignoring the top guy (Pacquiao) who was a top 147 contender for a much longer time.

The gap in NOT fighting Vs fighting the technically correct guy (I.E. Lineal Champ Baldomir, Lineal Champ Mosley, new WBC Champ Ortiz) is the whole crux of the matter, and why the never ending battle between Flomos, Pactards and all kinds of third party participants remains to this day.


THE END.

This is all true, Floyd fans know it too. It's just hard for them to admit it.

[Mike D]

I'm about the furthest thing from a Floyd Mayweather backer but I find it so hard to believe that a man who has fought his entire life is scared of another man. That said, that vid clip was weird. He looked alarmingly paranoid/concerned.

[Ham Porter]

he didnt say that.he said he wanted 10 mil for cotto,bob would only guarantee 7 mil.thus no fight

bob said floyd wouldnt commit to margacheato because he was waiting on the winner of oscar/mayorga.are you trying to say cheato was bigger than oscar?

Mayweather wanted the same guarantee against Cotto that he would get against De La Hoya, which was a far, far more lucrative fight. Just think about that for a second.


Mayweather didn't fight De La Hoya in his next fight; he fought Carlos Baldomir after Leonard Ellerbe claimed they couldn't fight Margarito in August due to an injured hand (the possibility of moving the date forward a couple of months obviously wasn't an option.)

[#1Assassin]

When Arum wanted Mayweather under Top Rank to fight Margarito for a career high pay day, he decided to fight Baldomir instead for less money. Mayweather went out of his way to get out of Top Rank by paying Arum to buy out his contract.

When Margarito was a threat and a potential foe, Mayweather "retired". After Margarito lost to Mosley and had the scandal, Mayweather announced his comeback just 4 months later.

Is this a confirmed duck?

1. floyd made the same money for baldomir he would have made for margarto.

2. baldomir AT THE TIME was a higher regarded fighter than margarito, his W against judah was a better win than anything margarito had recorded and he held the lineal WW title as opposed to the paper title held by margarito. he was universally rnked higher than margarito at 147 and p4p.

3. floyd was heavily criticized for ducking baldomir when he fought judah, everyone wanted him to fight baldomir at the time. nobody but a handful of margarito fans (werent many of them before the cotto fight) wanted floyd to fight him.

4. floyd "retired" only a few months AFTER margarito had LOST to williams, so a fight with margarito wasnt gonna happen retirement or not. he didnt have to do or say **** to avoid it, tony just got his ass whupped. if he took a break to avoid someone it would be williams.

5. margarito had just lost his status when floyd came back, but he also just gained it. margarito beat cotto to become a star the fight before he lost it all against mosley, floyd was already on temporary leave as all this transpired.

6. margarito would be easy work for floyd, way too slow and lacking in skills to be competitive. he doesnt even have the one punch KO power to have a punchers chance. all he can do is apply pressure and hope that alone tires floyd out enough for him to land some punches and then wear him out all the way. but floyd doesnt get tired from people just coming at him all night, you need to land shots and to do that you need more than heart and chin. he could box circles around margaritos slow, wide punching, plodding ass all day and night.