Excluding Floyd/Ward, who else beats Rigo pfp and why please.

[IronDanHamza]

So judged against his own standard, gotcha. The fact he's not what he used to be doesn't mean he's not one of the p4p best. Where do you have Bradley ranked again? Even you think Pac beat him, even if not dominant as is the consensus.

I'm not even arguing he should be above Rigo, though I could easily. I mean, he's hugely more proven. Rigo has one p4p worthy win, a very good win, but it will only push you into the top 10 when you have a meager resume.

I agree with you that Pacquaio's a P4P calibur fighter (Or I assume he's still up there) but the Bradley win* was before the KO loss so I don't think that's something that would justify it.

I don't really know where Pacquaio is at this moment in time in regards to how much he has left or atleast if he's the same guy who I felt beat Bradley in 2012.

[HeroBando]

I agree with you that Pacquaio's a P4P calibur fighter (Or I assume he's still up there) but the Bradley win* was before the KO loss so I don't think that's something that would justify it.

I don't really know where Pacquaio is at this moment in time in regards to how much he has left or atleast if he's the same guy who I felt beat Bradley in 2012.

The ko loss was a setback, lol. But when you're that far ahead of the pack p4p, such a loss to another p4per and your nemesis is not gonna remove you from p4p lists. Especially after dominating another p4per with little effort just prior, and then looking better than ever vs Marquez before the shocking ko. Rios was a status quo result, only proved he's not done like RJJ after Tarver.

[Bushbaby]

So judged against his own standard, gotcha. The fact he's not what he used to be doesn't mean he's not one of the p4p best. Where do you have Bradley ranked again? Even you think Pac beat him, even if not dominant as is the consensus.

I'm not even arguing he should be above Rigo, though I could easily. I mean, he's hugely more proven. Rigo has one p4p worthy win, a very good win, but it will only push you into the top 10 when you have a meager resume.

You call Bradley a pfp caliber fighter (which he is). But who was ranked higher this year him or Donaire before Rigo dismantled him. Followed up by shutting out Agbeko. That's greater than being stopped, and returning to beat Rios.

Anyway still don't see Pacman beating Rigo if they were the same size.

[HeroBando]

You call Bradley a pfp caliber fighter (which he is). But who was ranked higher this year him or Donaire before Rigo dismantled him. Followed up by shutting out Agbeko. That's greater than being stopped, and returning to beat Rios.

Anyway still don't see Pacman beating Rigo if they were the same size.

Donaire was ranked higher by most, so what? If Edwin Rodriguez had beaten Ward, he'd not go #2 p4p. He'd come in at 7 maybe, with Ward right behind him. It's only a single p4p win. Agbeko carries 0 p4p points, he looked bad vs Mares 2, then inactive, and wasn't a super bantam. So let me ask you, if Russell Jr next beats Rigo, he's p4p #3? How about if Jhonny Gonzalez KOs Rigo, is he #3? Depends on the eye test?

Maybe Rigo beats even prime Pac p4p, hard to tell when he hasn't fought anyone nearly as good, and won't if he stays at 122. With this kind of hype mongering no wonder Broner got to #5 p4p for DeMarco and passing the eye test.

[IronDanHamza]

The ko loss was a setback, lol. But when you're that far ahead of the pack p4p, such a loss to another p4per and your nemesis is not gonna remove you from p4p lists. Especially after dominating another p4per with little effort just prior, and then looking better than ever vs Marquez before the shocking ko. Rios was a status quo result, only proved he's not done like RJJ after Tarver.

Oh no, not remove him. Just I don't think the fact he beat Bradley has any standing on where he ranks today.

I don't think the Roy Jones situation is the same because Johnson is much better than Rios.

The Rios fight didn't really tell me anything about Pacquaio.

[soul_survivor]

Real $h!t, I genuinely want to know who else has a chance or clearly beats Rigo considering that they were the same size. The meaning of the term pfp. I genuinely want to know.

How does Bradley do it,
Pacman
Marquez
Wlad
and anyone else anyone has ranked higher.

I think, p4p Rigo doesn't beat Pacquiao at all, it's a severe beating. Yes Rigo is skilled but he is even more gun shy than Floyd, he doesn't like staying in the pocket and he throws too few punches. Manny would hurt him, maybe drop him and ultimately outpoint him or late stoppage. Rigo is doing great in an ok division and has a terrific win over a Donaire that looks like he has seen better days. Let's not get this too exaggerated please.

Heck if Rigo was to move up and Mares was to beat Gonzalez, I think Mares would hand Rigo a loss too and Mares ain't even in my p4p top 10. *****s be real!

[-Kev-]

Pac fans have been out of control since he beat Rios.

You wouldn't find them talking about P4P he beats Rigo when he got knocked out by Marquez.

[VG_Addict]

How much does resume determine P4P?

[!! Shawn]

Can't we all just agree that Rigo is the greatest fighter ever to lace up a pair of gloves?

[HeroBando]

Oh no, not remove him. Just I don't think the fact he beat Bradley has any standing on where he ranks today.

I don't think the Roy Jones situation is the same because Johnson is much better than Rios.

The Rios fight didn't really tell me anything about Pacquaio.

It wasn't so much what Johnson did, it's what RJJ was doing, being gunshy and laying on the ropes. For Pac the important thing is he stayed off the ropes and had the legs to move all night, which was one of the questions. And lets not overhype Johnson. He's lost to plenty of guys of Alvarado, Abril caliber, though had a good streak at the time.