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  • #41
    Originally posted by BronerGotHumped View Post
    I had it 50/50 when I looked at the sparring etc...

    Miadana has the power and Broner the boxing skill and speed. However from Rees I knew Broner wasn't the real deal because I let PDL slide. Rees is a bum and a midget from the UK where I have seen him look like **** often. To land that many shots on Broner let me know he has no defence. Styles make fights but Paulie was close enough so I was certain Broner was not better than Khan, and that fight was 1 or 2 rounds for Khan for me.

    Maidana has always had a nice jab and although slow, everyone can get hit in a 12 round fight and he has a hard hook to judge and counter. What he has is, if you aren't fast on your legs, he will hurt you or his power will make you change your game plan.
    many of those things are also things I took into account for my assessment. Also I factored in Broner's character, and Maidana's improvements in technique and stamina since the Devon fight.

    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
    Castillo was notably quicker, better pure boxer too plus he got dominated in the rematch and you have to imagine Floyd's ring IQ has improved since then. I genuinely don't see Maidana winning a round. Floyd isn't going to stand there not throwing while Maidana tees off on him, he's not going to stand there period.

    Obviously anything can happen in sport, particularly boxing, but on paper at least I think it's very one-sided..
    I agree about Floyd's ring iq improving. Castillo had a bit of a speed edge though I think Maidana can be fast. His first hook/jab that preceded the thudding right hand to the body and follow up hook in the second knockdown of Broner was deceptively quick. (The one that sent a spray of sweat off broner's dome) Maidana also has a considerable power advantage over castillo p4p prime for prime. His looping, sometimes downward overhand right is a problem for the shoulder roll. As is his wide rangey hook. That jab is authoritative and almost a power punch on his own. He would train the best he ever has in lieu of a Floyd fight. Not saying he would win but he would prove he deserved the shot!

    Khan is a pretty linear guy imo. His 1-2's are easier to time and defend, despite the speed. Maidana would have the harder to predict angles and he would fight worthily with tenacity and vigor.

    Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
    Maidana success vs Broner has nothing to do what will happen in a Floyd fight.
    You misunderstand why I asked. If he gave Maidana no chance against Broner that speaks of an overall bias against Maidana and a certain blindness and gullibility to what the networks feed the public as opposed to what is there to be SEEN

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      an argentine journalist just tweeted that haymon and schaefer told contursi (marcos manager) to get chino ready for floyd in may, i don't know if he has a good source, but i would love to see chino take away that fight from khan
      If true then good for Maidana, he has been on the wrong end of referees letting others do too much holding, giving them extra time on counts or constantly breaking things up, which all seem to have affected him adversely. Heck he really beat Kotelnik too.

      Khan should have gone for Alexander and IMO he would have beaten Alexander, and quite easily too. Alexander is a fall short at the top level kind of guy. Bradley, Kotelnik, Matthyse all beat him in my eyes.

      Khan being a champ, and beating a perceived top 47'er would have done wonders for him. However he did eye Mayweather and Katsidis/Cassamayor (135 when they were at the top) and got beat. He learnt a lesson, never look ahead. He has a 50/50 short at a Mayweather fight, where as losing would have been zero.

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      • #43
        Floyd dont wanna see baby bro get punished and assaulted for 12 rounds again in a rematch vs chino. Hes jhust looking out for his lil bro.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Syf View Post
          many of those things are also things I took into account for my assessment. Also I factored in Broner's character, and Maidana's improvements in technique and stamina since the Devon fight.



          I agree about Floyd's ring iq improving. Castillo had a bit of a speed edge though I think Maidana can be fast. His first hook/jab that preceded the thudding right hand to the body and follow up hook in the second knockdown of Broner was deceptively quick. (The one that sent a spray of sweat off broner's dome) Maidana also has a considerable power advantage over castillo p4p prime for prime. His looping, sometimes downward overhand right is a problem for the shoulder roll. As is his wide rangey hook. That jab is authoritative and almost a power punch on his own. He would train the best he ever has in lieu of a Floyd fight. Not saying he would win but he would prove he deserved the shot!

          Khan is a pretty linear guy imo. His 1-2's are easier to time and defend, despite the speed. Maidana would have the harder to predict angles and he would fight worthily with tenacity and vigor.



          You misunderstand why I asked. If he gave Maidana no chance against Broner that speaks of an overall bias against Maidana and a certain blindness and gullibility to what the networks feed the public as opposed to what is there to be SEEN
          I can agree with alot of what you said; my only thing is Floyd is a lot longer than Broner or Maidana is his range is impeccable. Broner was there for a stationary target in his shoulder roll ala James Toney. I dont think Floyd would be there for those looping shots which in his career has cost him the most trouble.

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          • #45
            If Mayweather does have as much respect for Broner as he said he does then I dont think he takes the Maidana fight. He'll shut him out and that will only make Broner look worse.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
              I can agree with alot of what you said; my only thing is Floyd is a lot longer than Broner or Maidana is his range is impeccable. Broner was there for a stationary target in his shoulder roll ala James Toney. I dont think Floyd would be there for those looping shots which in his career has cost him the most trouble.
              Broner cant even duplicated Toney's shoulder roll. Not only is he stationary, he doesn't move his head.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Syf View Post
                many of those things are also things I took into account for my assessment. Also I factored in Broner's character, and Maidana's improvements in technique and stamina since the Devon fight.



                I agree about Floyd's ring iq improving. Castillo had a bit of a speed edge though I think Maidana can be fast. His first hook/jab that preceded the thudding right hand to the body and follow up hook in the second knockdown of Broner was deceptively quick. (The one that sent a spray of sweat off broner's dome) Maidana also has a considerable power advantage over castillo p4p prime for prime. His looping, sometimes downward overhand right is a problem for the shoulder roll. As is his wide rangey hook. That jab is authoritative and almost a power punch on his own. He would train the best he ever has in lieu of a Floyd fight. Not saying he would win but he would prove he deserved the shot!

                Khan is a pretty linear guy imo. His 1-2's are easier to time and defend, despite the speed. Maidana would have the harder to predict angles and he would fight worthily with tenacity and vigor.



                You misunderstand why I asked. If he gave Maidana no chance against Broner that speaks of an overall bias against Maidana and a certain blindness and gullibility to what the networks feed the public as opposed to what is there to be SEEN
                Good read. I didn't mean to say you were in particular were ****** by asking what my name was BTW. Just that it's not hard to find out so I often ignore it.

                I personally feel Maidana's stamina isn't that much improved, he has slow rounds early at times and gets dropped, but comes back strong after until 8/9. Then he has a second wind. His work with Flores and Alex did help, but it's when he goes forward and lands that he goes for it. When as I believe Paulie said, he is backed up, he can't deal with it. It's true, when Khan ran/moved to Maidana's right side, Maidana got lovely leverage. When Khan fought hard and fast, he won those rounds. The sad thing for Khan is, he gets hurt and the round often is lost. What he does when he isn't hurt usually wins him the round.

                As for Broner, he spars in the doghouse for the sake of it. He has no purpose but to show off. Mayweather, even when he looked not the best VS the late Omar Henry, you can see he is there to learn and take off the ring rust. Broner is there to beat down people, but he always gets hit when a fighter is active. He can not smother, he can not defend or use a shoulder roll effectively. He can not run and waste time. He becomes a punching bag when he is not punching.

                140 he can beat everyone accept Danny and Matthyse. Oh and he got fat going on tour... he needs to end that ****. Duran and Hatton may have done better in certain fights, not that Broner got big as them.

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                • #48
                  Broner MUST rematch Chino....no tune ups or rebuilding!!...right back into the fire and SNATCH back whatever mental edge that may have been beat outta him....time to man up and bet all the chips....that's the hand he dealt himself....gotta play it now....as a Broner fan, anyone other than Chino next is absolutely unacceptable!!!

                  Floyd is big bro but he need to stop that babysitting **** lol....lil bro got this everybody need to chill the **** out....bring Big Floyd on board and the rebirth of AB will be a success imo

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                    That's 100% correct. After seeing what Maidana did to his little brother Floyd won't fight Maidana. He could beat Maidana but he would take lots of punishment and Mayweather hates to take punishment.


                    In his most recent interview when asked if Maidana was on the Team Mayweather radar, he said after that performance, "ofcourse"

                    You are a huge phaggot though. Anyone who jumps on any wagon saying Mayweather won't fight Maidana or he will take punishment from him is either being a complete liar or just very very deluded.

                    Mayweather will stop Maidana, or beat him sensless over 12 rounds and he won't get hit much at all. BANK ON THAT!!!!!

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                      Floyd can't believe his luck, the limited Maidana has just fallen into his lap as a legit opponent. I hope Broner ignores Floyd and forces the rematch.


                      Truthfully he probably is smiling. Khan poses many many many more problems for Floyd than a guy like Maidana. With Floyd in front of him Maidana is a late KO or corner stoppage waiting to happen.

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