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  • kej718
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    #631
    Originally posted by BronerGotHumped
    All the negotiations failing is because Mayweather never ever wanted the fight since he hates bob arum... He wanted to waste time
    Over the past two years, there's been a lot of uncertainty amongst fans and media alike regarding the events surrounding the negotiations for the mega-fight between pound-for-pound champions Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. In an effort to clear up the confusion, FightHype.com has put together an in-depth timeline detailing every major milestone that took place. From the moment that Floyd Mayweather came out of retirement to the minute that Manny Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum declared the fight to be off, all of the major events that dominated the headlines are included. Only the facts are included in this definitive timeline. Links to mulitple outside references have been included for each date, so fans can draw their own conclusions as to what went wrong at each step of the way.

    Over the past two years, there's been a lot of uncertainty amongst fans and media alike regarding the events surrounding the negotiations for the mega-fight between pound-for-pound champions Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. In an effort to clear up the confusion, FightHype.com has put together an in-depth timeline detailing every major milestone that took place. From the moment that Floyd Mayweather came out of retirement to the minute that Manny Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum declared the fight to be off, all of the major events that dominated the headlines are included. Only the facts are included in this definitive timeline. Links to mulitple outside references have been included for each date, so fans can draw their own conclusions as to what went wrong at each step of the way.


    Floyd agreed to Pac's terms
    had Schaefer go to negotiate the fight for him with Greenburg
    Called Pac himself

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    • turnedup
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      #632
      Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
      You sound as though you thought Pacquiao would actually leave Arum. lmaoooooooooooo

      He's not even going to leave him now, even though Arum might be taking money from him and is the reason Manny has serious tax problems.
      He wasn't with Arum his entire career and is it honestly that far fetched to assume a boxer who has a contract that just expired wouldn't take a fight in between contracts? It's happened before. Regarding the tax shhh...read my signature..if you are a legit boxing fans stfu about money son..we ain't accountants..we are boxing fans..finances ain't got shhh to do with what these men do in the ring..all the outside bullshhh is for fanboys and ****ryders. I could give a fck if FLoyd has $20 bucks to his name or Pacquaio has $2 to his name...only money I care about is mine.

      Originally posted by hitking
      That's kinda my point, and has been. None of these guys are ducking each other. The fight isn't being made for promotional reasons. The same reason we couldn't see Donaire-Mares, before they ran into Rigondeaux and Gonzolaz. Is the same reason we can't see Floyd-Pac. Problem is, people accept it for every fight other than Floyd-Pac.
      I find the whole duck shh to be ridiculous especially when these guys really aren't fighting for legacy anymore..frankly neither one is their peak and prime came and went. I say 99% of the issues is Richard and Bob...in a nutshell. Richard wanted to be Bob when TR was hot and now he is the top dog and Bob hates him for it.

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      • R_Walken
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        #633
        Originally posted by hitking
        ADP: goddamn son. According to your logic, Floyd should be beating the door down for a JMM rematch. There isn't an opponent out there that he KNOWS he'll easily beat and bring in more money than JMM. So if Floyd is out to sctictly take the easiest fights possible fore the most money, JMM is like a pot of ****in' gold.

        At days end, believe what you wanna believe. If you believe Floyd is scared of Manny, run with it. If Floyd has fans that believe that Arum has thrown up smokescreens and really never wanted the fight. They should run with it. Personally, I don't think either side has ever genuinely wanted the fight because there's been no real effort on either side to make it happen. Its basically been one **** measuring contest after another. And it all boils down to GBP and TR aren't gonna do business. We accept if when it comes to any other fight not happening. But not Floyd-Pac. Its the damned-ist thing I've ever seen in my life.
        ^^^^^^^^

        Good Post can disagree with anything you said. Although I still believe the fight will happen down the road to much $$ for it not to.

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        • hitking
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          #634
          Originally posted by Barn Burner
          Makes perfect sense to those not in denial , Floyd scared of that O not so much manny ,but he knows manny could very well give it to him by hitting him from every angle . Floyd back peddles in the ring and ducks at the negotiation table .
          STOP!!!! I'm a help you because I feel sorry for you. When talking about Floyd's "retirement", say he left because he the welterweight division was hot and he wanted no part of Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, and even Williams. Manny wasn't even in the equation back then. OK, that's my olive branch to you. If you continue, you're just making yourself look even dumber, even to those on your side of the argument. Notice throughout the thread how they come to defend each other. Nobody's coming to assist you because what you're saying is f.uckin' ******ed. And amount of fandom can justify it.

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          • FrankSucketts
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            #635
            If Pacman had signed with Golden Boy instead of Arum, it would be Oscar and Schafer that Floyd would never do business with instead.

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            • AgainstTheRopes
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              #636
              Originally posted by turnedup
              I will honestly say that Pacquaio should be removed from the equation..one thing we can say about that little mofo is he'll fight anyone in any sized ring..whatever reasons this fight never took place I will never blame him for it..I can't think of any other mofo on earth with the balls to get put to sleep and say you know what...let's do that shhh again. After that right there he got my deepest respects..I was in the wind about him up until that point..showed me this dude don't care about win or lose he's about the fight.
              Pacquiao is a true warrior and I'll never question his desire to fight anyone. He's also 10x the person Mayweather can ever dream of being. I do think though that he does deserve some blame as he is the one that keeps signing up with Arum.

              The accounting group that Pacquiao hired to see what was up in his finances discovered serious discrepancies but Pacquiao, as promoted by Arum, cut ties with them before they could dig any further. Couple years later, Pacquiao has over $50 million in taxes due to the IRS and Philippines.

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              • kej718
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                #637
                Originally posted by FrankSucketts
                If Pacman had signed with Golden Boy instead of Arum, it would be Oscar and Schafer that Floyd would never do business with instead.
                So Floyd would have turned down fights with Oscar, Mosley, and Hatton guys that he have been calling out since lightweight?

                how long did it take to make the fight with Oscar or Cotto when Arum was not involved?

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                • NachoMan
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                  #638
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  That's kinda my point, and has been. None of these guys are ducking each other. The fight isn't being made for promotional reasons. The same reason we couldn't see Donaire-Mares, before they ran into Rigondeaux and Gonzolaz. Is the same reason we can't see Floyd-Pac. Problem is, people accept it for every fight other than Floyd-Pac.
                  Bull. This fight is 100% in Floyd's control. If Floyd wanted to fight Manny then it would happen. Floyd would beat Manny, but he just can't bring himself to risk it. Floyd has had a personality problem with Bob Arum for more than a decade, yet that wasn't Floyd's reason last year or the year before. As soon as Manny removes an obstacle Floyd comes up with a new one. Then Floyd's fan rush in here and support his new b.s. excuse acting like it makes 100% sense. Screw this fight and Floyd. He doesn't want it, plain and simple. He'll be a first-ballot hall of famer one day, but, precisely because of his reluctance to take this fight, he will NEVER be considered the GOAT by the general fight fan.

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                  • turnedup
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                    #639
                    Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
                    Pacquiao is a true warrior and I'll never question his desire to fight anyone. He's also 10x the person Mayweather can ever dream of being. I do think though that he does deserve some blame as he is the one that keeps signing up with Arum.

                    The accounting group that Pacquiao hired to see what was up in his finances discovered serious discrepancies but Pacquiao, as promoted by Arum, cut ties with them before they could dig any further. Couple years later, Pacquiao has over $50 million in taxes due to the IRS and Philippines.
                    I really don't like to talk about finances when it comes to boxers, I do think the entire IRS thing has been blown way out of proportion. If Pacquaio actually owed $18 million he'd be in jail now..considering how back all this supposedly goes back to..technically his "write-off's" would've been considered fraudulent thus negating his filing and making him instantly guilty in a court of law plus once he set foot here he'd never be allowed to leave without permission of a judge. They got Wesley for a hell of a lot less than Pacquaio is rumored to owe. I'd be surprised if this dude ends up owing a dime over $3 million or so and a few fines. Remember folks here IRS and see a number and think "Ohhh shhh he's screwed"...when you are screwed with the IRS for sure is when the cuffs come out..since they haven't and lawyers are now involved this shh should be resolved pretty soon enough.

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                    • hitking
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                      #640
                      Originally posted by turnedup
                      Man my bro is like the biggest Pacquaio defender on earth and I will say this he stopped fking with him when the politics got inovled and I can say that I think alot of people stopped messing with him because they honestly didn't think and still don't think he's completely dedicated to the sport kinda like how people feel about broner doing the rap shh on the side.
                      I don't know. I'm a AB fan and I'm still an AB fan. I don't think none of the extra **** hurt him. Well, not as much as some want to believe. I just think he and his team tried to take a shortcut to stardom and it bit him in the ass. Nothing more, nothing less.

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