Comments Thread For: Groves: If Froch is a Man, He Will Give Me a Rematch

[New England]

Who is this punk-ass clown what's your records in the ring buster? Froch is nothing but a warrior and has the best resume in the sport so shut your ****** mouth.

To serious posters, I hope these guys can come together and get the rematch made.

brits.

[MBE]

Bradley

Marquez (former champion)
Provodnikov (champion)
Casamayor (former Champion)
Alexander (former champion)
Abregu
Peterson (champion)
Campbell (former champion)
Holt (former champion)
Vasquez (Champion)

Froch

Kessler (former champion)
Bute (former champion)
Johnson (former champion)
Abraham (former champion)
Dirrell
Taylor (former champion)
Pascal (former champion)

You were saying?

How many did Bradley fight in their prime? Not as many as Carl. And you can't count what they did after because all that matters is the version of the fighter they got in the ring with.

I give my props to Bradley he's a great champion, I think carls cv edges him though, he was in far more fights where he was supposed to lose, all back to back.

[SnakeVen0m]

How many did Bradley fight in their prime? Not as many as Carl. And you can't count what they did after because all that matters is the version of the fighter they got in the ring with.

I give my props to Bradley he's a great champion, I think carls cv edges him though, he was in far more fights where he was supposed to lose, all back to back.

But Carl fought a shot to **** Taylor who was beating his ass for 11 1/2 rounds?!? Johnson who was way past prime. Not to mention Kessler's win which was recent, Kessler is done too! He fought Kessler in his prime and he lost! I'm not counting losses.

[MBE]

brits.

Dude did you not take a xenophobia module in your 200k racism degree

[MBE]

But Carl fought a shot to **** Taylor who was beating his ass for 11 1/2 rounds?!? Johnson who was way past prime. Not to mention Kessler's win which was recent, Kessler is done too! He fought Kessler in his prime and he lost! I'm not counting losses.

Lol carl was supposed to lose all those fights you know, it was the jermain Taylor show. The only time carl has been favorite on the world level was 3 fights ago, that was despite slaying everyone in or around his weight class bar ward. And let's not forget that Bradley took an L to pacquiao and went life and death with provodnikov.

I respect both fighters though so I don't want to use Bradley against froch because I rate them both highly. I think froch has fought and the better, prime fighters though.

[SnakeVen0m]

Lol carl was supposed to lose all those fights you know, it was the jermain Taylor show. The only time carl has been favorite on the world level was 3 fights ago, that was despite slaying everyone in or around his weight class bar ward. And let's not forget that Bradley took an L to pacquiao and went life and death with provodnikov.

I respect both fighters though so I don't want to use Bradley against froch because I rate them both highly. I think froch has fought and best the better, prime fighters though.

Can you explain to me please how this matter in a resume? I'm simply looking at facts here.

[bojangles1987]

Can you explain to me please how this matter in a resume? I'm simply looking at facts here.

I factor pre-fight expectations into a fighter's resume. Certain wins are definitely enhanced based on what was expected going into it. Ultimately the quality of fighter matters more, but I don't like to just dismiss expectations.

[SnakeVen0m]

I factor pre-fight expectations into a fighter's resume. Certain wins are definitely enhanced based on what was expected going into it. Ultimately the quality of fighter matters more, but I don't like to just dismiss expectations.

So when it boils down to it, who do you think has a better resume overall, Bradley or Froch?!? Add to it that Bradley has beaten 3 current active champions!!!

[GG Magic]

It's amusing watching these Froch apologists go to work. They purposely fail to contextualise why this rematch is so important.

Froch prides himself on being one of the best fighters Britain ever had. The fact is he got knocked down and almost knocked out in the first round, and then got out-boxed and out-gunned for the vast majority of the fight. All this against a guy who was a huge underdog. Whether you agree with the stoppage or not, it was indisputably controversial. Froch, who was cheered into the ring initially, was booed out of it by the end of the fight.

If you read between the lines you will realise this rematch has little to do with Groves as much as it has to do with the fans, and Froch himself. Groves, after all, has a bright future regardless and has gone up in stock massively. It is Froch who is now being questioned everywhere. And it's Froch who needs to cement his legacy by leaving no questions unanswered.

After all, he does claim to be the best fighter Britain ever had alongside Lennox Lewis.

[MBE]

Can you explain to me please how this matter in a resume? I'm simply looking at facts here.

Thats your problem you're looking at only the facts on paper and not the wider context.

Bojangles makes a good point. In his follow up post.

Also if we just look at facts only, then we have to take what bojangles signature says is true, that deante wilder is truly better than Muhammad Ali. But using context I'm guessing that he's being sarcastic there ;-)