Comments Thread For: Arum: Cotto Will Earn More From Martinez Than Canelo

[Elinmortal]

I've always thought old Bob would make sure Cotto gets paid more fighting Martinez than Canelo. Not saying the Martinez fight is better or bigger but Cotto stands at a much better chance beating Martinez than Canelo imo. Although money is important to any fighter, but legacy and health plays big factors as well. Cotto is a HUGE draw, him and Martinez will hit over a million buys mark my words. I do think that a Cotto/Canelo is potentially wayyyy bigger but let Cotto get this Middleweight strap first and hype it up a bit.

real talk right here

[Detroit29]

You are talking a pile of rubbish. I think that at your level of ignorance you should read the sites for about 5 years before posting anything which would show you up so much. But you are not alone, I'd say that there are only about 3 posters on this thread who know what they're talking about....plus myself.

Cotto was with Arum from his very first pro fight until his final contract expired at the end of December 2011. He took two fights as an independent, with Golden Balls fighters in 2012 and lost them both. He then came back to Arum and Top Rank is again promoting his fights on a fight by fight basis.

The reason he didn't re-sign with Top Rank after having had Arum guide him for over 14 years to a hugely successful career, had nothing to do with money. It seemed to have been because he allowed the ignorant fan base-which makes up about 90% of all boxing fans (my opinion) to stir his mind up over an unsubstantiated accusation of a Margarito fraud in their fight. And, golden Balls tempted him with a Mayweather fight.

Arum felt, from the Commission verdict, (which absolved Margarito from cheating but penalised him because "you are the head of your team") that Margarito was being unfairly treated by the public -like a pariah- so he supported him and helped him.

Cotto obviously feels more comfortable with Top Rank so what difference does it make to YOU.....? Not ONE SINGLE PERSON on this whole site knows anything at all about the financial arrangements of the major match-ups. The only way they could know, would be to have copies of the relevant contracts, as well as the reported IRS tax returns of the fighters. What fighter do you think will give this info to a reporter??? Eh??

I know that you're not exactly asleep when it comes to boxing--but you're not exactly awake either....... So take my advice.

Have you never heard that "Fools Rush In where Angels Fear To Tread".

I was being funny with the arum crack. But since you want to go there....lets start with cheato. Only God knows how long he was using the plaster. He finally got caught against mosley. Cheato tried to save face by blaming his trainer. If u watch the end of the cotto fight, his wraps were pink on the inside. Chreatos record after being caught was 1-3.
As far as cotto goes, he ONLY resigned with top rank to get revenge against margarito. You know if cotto would have left top rank then, he would not have not gotten that fight. You see Arum isnt anxious to put his cash cow into the ring with Cotto. Especailly not at 54. They eanted to drain cotto back to 47 to make the fight happen.

Sure arum will work with Cotto against sacrificial lambs like rodriguez, but who is he? Just cotto woulld have never gotten the floyd fight had he still been on top rank. Mayweather asked for 10 million to fight him and arum lowballed him. You right, cotto is smart enough to resign to top rank because he sees whats happening to pac. Even if cotto was fighting at 47 and was doing a fight by fight basis, i bet he wouldnt be able to fight bradley, marquez, ruslan (if he decides to move up).

[Southpaw King]

Of course arum will say that...he ain't trying to loose that cotto money right now...a PR vs a Mexican will always sell...this would be like the modern day Tito vs de la Hoya...not as big but def a big enough fight that I can see easily doing better numbers then cotto vs martinez

[baya]

My question is why didn't Cotto jump at the opportunity to fight Martinez when he wasn't as old and injured? Lol

totally, cotto's always taking the path of least resistance

***ing lames.

[Beater_of_ass]

All you guys talking about PPV and the revenue involved and no one but Arum/Cott/Martinez/Dibella and HBO know anything about what is going on. Guys like Kev specifically think they know everything and there is no way Cotto can make 10 million, it isn't possibly according to him. Fine, let's say Cotto gets 8 million... He'll make 2 million less and fight Sergio Martinez, lineal MW Champion. You know... sometimes less money is worth it, this one would be the case. I am underpaid at my job for what I currently do, but I am ok with it because of the perks of the company. Free lunch daily, I don't have to be at work at 8, I can be there 7-9 and work till my 8 hours are over, I get a lot of sick/vacation pay as well as other perks.

As for him making more than 10 million... I don't see how it isn't possible. Shutting it down like you are negotiating is ****ing laughable, Kev simply cannot be told he is wrong, even when NO ONE actually knows the answer. Personally I could care less what the purses are, Cotto is fighting Martinez which is 100x's the better fight.

[Bullrider]

Why is money even discussed when it comes to Cotto? He just fought two non PPV fights in his last two when he could have taken high profile fights. Fans were even able to watch his fight with Trout for free without Showtime subscription. Isn't that enough to conclude that the guy is not after the money?

Alvarez and Golden Balls need to move on and start preparing to announce Canelo's next fight that doesn't involve Cotto. Clock is ticking. March is just a few months away.

[Wyvceo]

then why did cotto and Juan Diaz leave gbp for toprank? Also pacquiao opponents make more than Floyd opponents. Rios got4mil for PAC. A lot more than Ortiz or Guerrero got for Floyd. I think both companies pay well.

Diaz that's all you got Canelo made 12 million he's Mexican abs that was his first major fight Canelo was in showtime ...your wrong. BTW GUERRERO DID MAKe 4 mil look it up and he was 4 division champ

[Wyvceo]

I was being funny with the arum crack. But since you want to go there....lets start with cheato. Only God knows how long he was using the plaster. He finally got caught against mosley. Cheato tried to save face by blaming his trainer. If u watch the end of the cotto fight, his wraps were pink on the inside. Chreatos record after being caught was 1-3.
As far as cotto goes, he ONLY resigned with top rank to get revenge against margarito. You know if cotto would have left top rank then, he would not have not gotten that fight. You see Arum isnt anxious to put his cash cow into the ring with Cotto. Especailly not at 54. They eanted to drain cotto back to 47 to make the fight happen.

Sure arum will work with Cotto against sacrificial lambs like rodriguez, but who is he? Just cotto woulld have never gotten the floyd fight had he still been on top rank. Mayweather asked for 10 million to fight him and arum lowballed him. You right, cotto is smart enough to resign to top rank because he sees whats happening to pac. Even if cotto was fighting at 47 and was doing a fight by fight basis, i bet he wouldnt be able to fight bradley, marquez, ruslan (if he decides to move up).

Your dead right and I always tell these dummies if PAC really wanted to fight floyd he would have smart like cotto go make that money and comeback but this dummy signed back ti tge guys ripping him off for a measly 1 million dollar bonus..******. Floyd said he still owe me money from gatti fight I will never put 1 dollar in his pocket...delahoya hate him for sane reason ...bob dies all fights happen

[simms601]

totally, cotto's always taking the path of least resistance

***ing lames.

You're right, having one of the toughest schedules in modern boxing is the path of least resistance. I guess facing all those top fighters means nothing...

[simms601]

Why is money even discussed when it comes to Cotto? He just fought two non PPV fights in his last two when he could have taken high profile fights. Fans were even able to watch his fight with Trout for free without Showtime subscription. Isn't that enough to conclude that the guy is not after the money?

Alvarez and Golden Balls need to move on and start preparing to announce Canelo's next fight that doesn't involve Cotto. Clock is ticking. March is just a few months away.

So I'm guessing Cotto is fighting for fun if he isn't fighting for money? A new definition to PRIZE fighting huh?