Mayweather has grown on me

[Doctor_Tenma]

Well from what I remember Clottey was definitely a top 5 welterweight and was consistent in the division. He is a much better fighter than Ortiz and Guerrero who's claim to fame in the division was a win over Andre Berto.

What credible opponent has Clottey ever beat? Don't be ******......

[illmaticfighter]

when you look at the fact the fighters he didn't fight were top rank you notice most of these ducking claims is all hogwash and bs.

pac hasn't fought a goldenboy fighter since he fought oscar dela hoya why is that was he ducking golden boys roster or was he simply not able to fight anyone outside of top rank.

so in reality the only fighter i guess floyd could've fought is paul williams and look what beating him did for carlos quintana

[bojangles1987]

One thing Mayweather should appreciate about Adrien Broner is how much better Floyd looks in comparison. It's hard to be overly critical of Mayweather when you have a fraudulent clown that tries so hard to be him to compare to.

Floyd is a masterful boxer who's had an ATG career and despite his persona, is a true professional when it comes to anything boxing. His preparation, his dedication, his performance in the ring, it's all top notch.

[The Problem Child]

I asked to please exclude Pac. I dont want the thread to turn into a groupie pillow fight. Thanks for that..

Of course you did, because it fits your agenda. Pacquiao can never be excluded from this type of discussion.

Come with facts please , lets say he did cherry pick his competition at his advantage , who would you have picked instead. Give me some names. Because I think my posts specifically says he couldn't have fought better opposition. So give me some examples. Like I also asked at the end of the post.... :smh:

I already gave you names, go read my post again.

That is not what I implied.. Im not sure whether he is proud of it or not or if even if he cares. But the facts are the facts and people do tune in to see if he losses. Someone wastes their money on hopes of seeing you lose... I mean , I cant draw you a map buddy.

This post lacks little informative value, you could have summed all of that in one sentence.

It's quite simple, let me spell it out for you again since apparently you didn't comprehend it on your first read: "Having people tune in to see your downfall is not something to be proud of as a civil human being. To know that many people wish to see your downfall should make you reconsider your behavior and the way you present yourself."

It's not a positive way of obtaining fame and attention. I can draw you another map if you wish, little buddy.

Again , who would you have replaced in his resume at the time of the fight and who would you have put in place. And how else would you have developed them... Dont come with that ****** post if you cant even give an example of you opinion.

Again, go read my post. I mentioned names and timelines.

Im Puerto Rican , and a Cotto fan. And I can tell you that Cotto would not have beaten him back in 2008. Cotto did not have the experience to beat him. The Cotto that fought Floyd was the best version of Cotto that could have fought Floyd. He was confident , nothing to lose. Experienced , much much more experienced in every aspect. How would have 2008 Cotto fought , that it would have been better. Please explain.

Your nationality gives you no leverage over other people's opinions, so pointing that is useless to me or to anyone else.

That is your opinion. Here's the factual side of it: He fought Cotto after the gruesome beatings he suffered at the hands of Margarito and Pacquiao.

Please come with some substantial posts or this debate will turn out to be pointless.

[joseph5620]

With such idiocy, I had to refrain from reading the rest of your post.

You aren't missing out on anything. Believe that.

[illmaticfighter]

What credible opponent has Clottey ever beat? Don't be ******......

hell i know clottey lost by dq but even baldo has a win over him clottey only beat judah and an a out of shape and old diego

[DoubleLeftH00k]

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[MODAPHUKA]

Of course you did, because it fits your agenda. Pacquiao can never be excluded from this type of discussion.



I already gave you names, go read my post again.

This post lacks little informative value, you could have summed all of that in one sentence.

It's quite simple, let me spell it out for you again since apparently you didn't comprehend it on your first read: "Having people tune in to see your downfall is not something to be proud of as a civil human being. To know that many people wish to see your downfall should make you reconsider your behavior and the way you present yourself."

It's not a positive way of obtaining fame and attention. I can draw you another map if you wish, little buddy.



Again, go read my post. I mentioned names and timelines.



Your nationality gives you no leverage over other people's opinions, so pointing that is useless to me or to anyone else.

That is your opinion. Here's the factual side of it: He fought Cotto after the gruesome beatings he suffered at the hands of Margarito and Pacquiao.

Please come with some substantial posts or this debate will turn out to be pointless.

You said he chooses fighters under his level to make himself shine?? Who?? Who could have been replaced , and with who?? That's what I meant.

Pacquiao and Cotto?? Those are your answers for that. Because those are the only two names in your post. Who Could have replaced Cotto?? And of course nobody could have replaced Pac. Because the fight hasn't happened.


People that tuned in to watch him lose still where reminded at the end of fights how good he was. And that he could walk the walk. he didn't obtain fame from that , HE ALREADY HAD IT.

Again , the names you mentioned could not possibly represent the names of fighters that in your opinion where chosen to "make him shine". Cotto was chosen to make him shine?? So who would have done better? Who was the better , more worthy opponent??

I didn't say I was Rican because that would give me more credibility on Cotto. I mentioned it so you can see how easily , I could have chosen to be biased , but instead wasnt. No version of Cotto beats Floyd. EVER!! My opinion.

[GOD-FR33]

Smh again.

Floyd is a coward. He has NO BALLS! PERIOD! Hopefully you've seen his latest video trying to explain why he doesn't fight elite fighters. Smh. He looks bad, kid. He looks bad. Floyd is bad for the sport. If he does fight Khan, Khan wil have been training for a year and working on his flaws and new techniques and with VH in his corner, LOOK OUT! Karma may come back and bite him via Khan shocking upset. Be careful what you say and how it's perceived by the masses. Cherry-picking will be his downfall. Mark my words.

[MODAPHUKA]

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It was really good.