No one can do what manny Did.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Cmon guys, Larry said he was a 4 weight lineal champ and an ATG. Don't hate on him now, what he said in his second paragraph is the truth

[drakknoir]

And no, Floyd isn't the same. You just saying that, doesn't make it true.

The guy trains year round, and doesn't take long breaks off from training.

All of your evidence is based on what you have read or heard. you need to do some critical analysis, someones word is not credible, well not least academically.

im just saying on unofficially weight on fight nights they are the same.

Calorie intake is likely to be similar, you saying manny eats more is not acceptable to me as there is no reference or source how do i know you didnt make it up?

micheal phelps 12,000 cals a day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2177613/Michael-Phelps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html

amir khan 6,800
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...ng-regime.html

manny pacqiuao 7,000
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/manny...calories-a-day

nothing for floyd though.

of course calorie intake is no proof of anything, humidity temperature etc could all increase calorie intake in a number of ways. point is you using that is no proof of anything. like i said want to find out if manny is smaller see who needs to do more weight trainng to add mass to make the scales

[drakknoir]

anyway i dont really care who struggles more to make the scales. in the ring they weigh almost exactly the same so thats all we can prove. who struggles more to make the weight etc is all subjective. there literrally the same height with an quater of an inch difference. floyd has a bigger reach, their difference in 'size' is literally so negligible its irrelevent.

[midnight_magic]

nobody will ever do what Manny did. at least not for a while. he's one of the best i've ever seen.

basically a featherweight kicking the crap out of everyone from 100-160 while he smiles and never rubs it in anyones face. not only this, he's a great person who cares about people and boxing fans.

you get the sense manny would fight for donuts if it made someone else happy.

just an incredible boxing legend and human.

[Triumph 916]

I don't think we will ever see another Manny Pacquiao. Ever. He is really something else, I can never understand why Floyd fans dislike him so much.

It's not Pac...it's his fans that love to disect everybody else's winner/resume but fail to call Pac on his BS that we don't like. Be a fan of whoever you want but it's annoying when people crucify Floyd for things then turn around & give Pac a pass. It goes both ways with both fan bases though...both go overboard.

[BUNGALOWS]

All of your evidence is based on what you have read or heard. you need to do some critical analysis, someones word is not credible, well not least academically.

im just saying on unofficially weight on fight nights they are the same.

Calorie intake is likely to be similar, you saying manny eats more is not acceptable to me as there is no reference or source how do i know you didnt make it up?

micheal phelps 12,000 cals a day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2177613/Michael-Phelps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html

amir khan 6,800
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...ng-regime.html

manny pacqiuao 7,000
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/manny...calories-a-day

nothing for floyd though.

of course calorie intake is no proof of anything, humidity temperature etc could all increase calorie intake in a number of ways. point is you using that is no proof of anything. like i said want to find out if manny is smaller see who needs to do more weight trainng to add mass to make the scales

Did you prove something to me? You just posted stuff that I already know.

I suggest you use your critical thinking. Floyd trains year round. He makes weight. He doesn't need to eat 7,000 + calories during training camps. Manny does. It's documented.

It's sort of like with Hopkins during his MW days. He was always in PEAK physical condition. PEAK. Manny doesn't workout year round, and he actually does get chubby during his non training sessions.

And yes, Manny eating 7,000 calories during training camps, is a clear indicator that he has a very hard time retaining size for the weigh ins. Kind of a reason why he fought at lower weight classes.

COMMON SENSE, bud.

[Grimgash]

And there's a huge difference between weighing in at a certain weight, especially after a training camp.

When Manny's in a training camp, he loses weight and bodily fluids, and weighs in at 130-whatever weight.

When he's at WW, he HAS to ingest a boat load of food to keep that weight on during training camps, for the weigh ins.

Use some common sense.

He's actually filled into WW easily these days. Wether it's due to lack of training and getting lazy or he just fits better, he's the same size as Floyd (you can argue bigger but come on a +/- difference of 1 lb doesn't mean much and I'm not counting it (unless someone wants to argue he's much smaller). 151 vs JMM whereas Floyd was 150 vs Canelo...anyhow...

Manny is an ATG there's no denying that, the only thing I don't really give him credit for is the 154 belt but still even without it he's an ATG. What he did is impressive, and will we see it again? Yes, it'll happen again...records are made to be broken, if no one ever thought it could happen again a record would be set and kept forever.

People are arguing ATG status before careers are over...enjoy what few fights the best of this era have left....and it is few...and talk about this stuff when they're gone. Too much bias on fighters and praising them non stop, when you should be looking forward that their next fight is a good one.

[BUNGALOWS]

He's actually filled into WW easily these days. Wether it's due to lack of training and getting lazy or he just fits better, he's the same size as Floyd (you can argue bigger but come on a +/- difference of 1 lb doesn't mean much and I'm not counting it (unless someone wants to argue he's much smaller). 151 vs JMM whereas Floyd was 150 vs Canelo...anyhow...

Manny is an ATG there's no denying that, the only thing I don't really give him credit for is the 154 belt but still even without it he's an ATG. What he did is impressive, and will we see it again? Yes, it'll happen again...records are made to be broken, if no one ever thought it could happen again a record would be set and kept forever.

People are arguing ATG status before careers are over...enjoy what few fights the best of this era have left....and it is few...and talk about this stuff when they're gone. Too much bias on fighters and praising them non stop, when you should be looking forward that their next fight is a good one.

They're not NATURALLY the same size. Floyd trains all year round. Manny doesn't.

It's that simple. Floyd works harder to maintain at his WW limit, and he stays at the weight. If Manny did that, he'd be fighting at 140.

[NearHypnos]

Did you prove something to me? You just posted stuff that I already know.

I suggest you use your critical thinking. Floyd trains year round. He makes weight. He doesn't need to eat 7,000 + calories during training camps. Manny does. It's documented.

It's sort of like with Hopkins during his MW days. He was always in PEAK physical condition. PEAK. Manny doesn't workout year round, and he actually does get chubby during his non training sessions.

And yes, Manny eating 7,000 calories during training camps, is a clear indicator that he has a very hard time retaining size for the weigh ins. Kind of a reason why he fought at lower weight classes.

COMMON SENSE, bud.

People dont just eat for weight management... They burn too much, they nee it to recover properly. Anybody workin out that much and not ingesting the appropriate amount of calories will break down and lose al their muscle and it would become detrimental to their health. Floyd is rumored to be an animal in the gym and he's done interviews eating mcdonalds n sh it. Logic would tell you if they are working out similarly, if Floyd only ate lets say... The average 2k calories he would put himself at an EXTREME caloric deficit. He'd lose weight. From what I've heard, Floyd eats a lot of food as well and needs to also go to bed on a full stomach.

Pac loses weight while training? Yeah.. Everyone does. Go hit the gym for 5 hours and see if you dont come back 5-10 pounds lighter. Its logic. You are giving an argument as if it only applied to Pac but it applies to everyone. Its as simple as putting on weight = caloric surplus and weight loss = caloric deficit... Pac doesnt really eat to put on weight (as you mentioned, he outs on weight between fights which contradicts what youre saying all together)... Pac clearly eats to MAINTAIN weight. He had to eat a lot before to put on the muscle, but its now all maintenance. Same with Floyd. These guys burn too many calories and have to eat a s hit ton.

[BUNGALOWS]

People dont just eat for weight management... They burn too much, they nee it to recover properly. Anybody workin out that much and not ingesting the appropriate amount of calories will break down and lose al their muscle and it would become detrimental to their health. Floyd is rumored to be an animal in the gym and he's done interviews eating mcdonalds n sh it. Logic would tell you if they are working out similarly, if Floyd only ate lets say... The average 2k calories he would put himself at an EXTREME caloric deficit. He'd lose weight. From what I've heard, Floyd eats a lot of food as well and needs to also go to bed on a full stomach.

Pac loses weight while training? Yeah.. Everyone does. Go hit the gym for 5 hours and see if you dont come back 5-10 pounds lighter. Its logic. You are giving an argument as if it only applied to Pac but it applies to everyone. Its as simple as putting on weight = caloric surplus and weight loss = caloric deficit... Pac doesnt really eat to put on weight (as you mentioned, he outs on weight between fights which contradicts what youre saying all together)... Pac clearly eats to MAINTAIN weight. He had to eat a lot before to put on the muscle, but its now all maintenance. Same with Floyd. These guys burn too many calories and have to eat a s hit ton.

Trust me. I know this. I work out almost everyday, and have been through the bulking, cutting, cardio, only basketball, only swimming, only boxing phases. I know this.

I'm saying. Floyd trains year round. He is longer than Manny. He can naturally fill out more. He doesn't have to eat as much as Manny while training, because he is the naturally bigger guy.

Pac doesnt really eat to put on weight (as you mentioned, he outs on weight between fights which contradicts what youre saying all together)... Pac clearly eats to MAINTAIN weight. He had to eat a lot before to put on the muscle, but its now all maintenance. Same with Floyd. These guys burn too many calories and have to eat a s hit ton.

Wait, hold up. That's what I've been saying this whole time. Have you just not been reading what I said.

I clearly said, Manny has to eat 7,000 to maintain his weight during trainins sessions for the weigh ins. Which is why I said him weighing 145 on fight nights doesn't mean a thing.

When you have to weigh in at 147 during the weigh in, he has to eat 7,000 to maintain that weight.

Floyd is the naturally bigger guy. It's painfully obvious.