why do rigo and lara get so much hate but ward and floyd are beloved?

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  • technicalboxer
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    #51
    So, in essence, your criteria for judging or liking a boxer depends chiefly on their musical preferences?

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    • midnight_magic
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      #52
      Originally posted by Jalisciense909
      Exactly! I think the guy I was replying to is black, and he's ****ing on Rigo and Lara for not speaking English. English is not black people's original language so idk what he's thinking. They weren't speaking English in Africa before the whites came and enslaved them. All I'm saying is people act like the English language is superior to everything else, and IT'S NOT!
      I believe whites simply purchased them as property from the Africans who already had enslaved their own people and made $$ by selling them to anyone who needed some ******.

      So technically speaking, white people never enslaved Africans.

      At that time the slave trade was booming, much like the tech boom today. In some places in Africa and the Middle East, the slave trade is still quite strong, it just doesn't get much news coverage.

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      • VAGAB0ND
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        #53
        People are such hypocrites. People are in here saying "since when is Floyd beloved?", you say that in this thread, but when you talk about PPV numbers you say it's all his drawing power and not the Mexican fans or the Puerto Rican fans buying the fights. It's all Floyd's fans. You say he's not beloved, so I'm sure you say Mexicans are the ones who bought the PPV against Canelo, right?

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        • VAGAB0ND
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          #54
          Originally posted by midnight_magic
          I believe whites simply purchased them as property from the Africans who already had enslaved their own people and made $$ by selling them to anyone who needed some ******.

          So technically speaking, white people never enslaved Africans.

          At that time the slave trade was booming, much like the tech boom today. In some places in Africa and the Middle East, the slave trade is still quite strong, it just doesn't get much news coverage.
          All I'm saying is English is not superior to other languages. Didn't intend to get into that other stuff.

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          • midnight_magic
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            #55
            Originally posted by Jalisciense909
            All I'm saying is English is not superior to other languages. Didn't intend to get into that other stuff.
            I love many languages bro. I once dated a beautiful mestiza who spoke her native nahuatl language. We would make love and she would teach me phrases over breakfast.

            I also love Spanish, German, Russian, Italian, Portugese, and Pashtun. The world is full of so many beautiful people.

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            • face untouched
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              #56
              Originally posted by midnight_magic
              I love many languages bro. I once dated a beautiful mestiza who spoke her native nahuatl language. We would make love and she would teach me phrases over breakfast.

              I also love Spanish, German, Russian, Italian, Portugese, and Pashtun. The world is full of so many beautiful people.
              how do you say "Rigo is a boring 80 year gargoyle" In Ecuadorian or Romanian bro?

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              • DannYankee
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                #57
                Floyd and Ward are not loved by everyone but they sure as fk are recognized and respected they've had longer careers if you keep winning even the haters have to bend to your superior skills and although not everyone will like you they sure as **** will respect you.

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                • NearHypnos
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Grimgash
                  Not when it comes to marketing in the US there really isn't. To hit the casual fan base in the US english is HUGE. Also Lara and Rigo don't have a personality that sells. Floyd is more offensive and built his own name up. There's a ton of reasons why to be honest. Also it's about who they've fought. Rigo and Lara haven't fought big names and not to mention Rigo is tiny and most American fans don't care about the little guys. I've said this a million times this thread is a carbon copy of 100 others....it's stale and a dead topic.
                  Donaire is a big name. :/.. Broner hasnt fought a bigger name IMO than Donaire (I guess I consider Nonito a bigger name than Paulie outside lf new york). Rigo has practically been crucified for beating Nonito so handily.

                  Also, its not AS much that Rigo doesnt speak english because he could be a superstar with spanish alone but it's that a big portion of the spanish speaking countries tend to get behind guys who fight... Differently but he's also not getting network support. If Rigo was american he'd get more backing. There's worse out there being "built" up... Like Alexander, Crawford, Love, etc. If you're dominant and american, they WILL at least TRY to back you (though guys like Bernard had it rough). Unfortunately, Rigo and Lara dont have the other latin countries backing them in full and stylistically, the guys who can give them some trouble or who would make good fights for them are mexican so... If he were tofight someone like Leo, Mares, etc his latin mexican brothers are rooting against him. Likewise for lara with the two biggest names being Cotto (another big fanbase against him) and Nelo. If they could somehow market themselves properly then the other latin countries would back them like they do with Sergio, Lucas, etc (but look at the way these guys fight.. Completely unlike Lara or Rigo).. In Rigos case it doesnt help that he already dominated the biggest name anywhere near his weight class before becoming better known with more fights lol.


                  It's hard out here for a slick counter punching non Rican/Mexican.

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                  • oscar28mx
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                    #59
                    havent seen ward fight but Mayweather hes an all around boxer hes defense is no only great or hes counterpunching he can brawl whe he has too,he just doesnt run or looks like hes running the whole ****ing time like rigo.

                    two examples is the cotto,ortiz,fight i never seen rigo or lara wanting to go toe to toe with the oponnent you know like **** counterpunching lets do it toe to toe.

                    Even khan goes toe to toe with the opponent,but ayways thats just my point of view.

                    the same happen to marquez they said that he would not go toe to toe just countering so he was behind morales and barrera but ones he started brawling more he started getting the attention.

                    it goes on to what boxing fan want and thats brawl.

                    this cuban boxer are just too damn skills,they dont need to brawl to beat you.

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                    • MDPopescu
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by face untouched
                      how do you say "Rigo is a boring 80 year gargoyle" In Ecuadorian or Romanian bro?
                      "Ecuadorian" is Spanish... But in Romanian the sentence is: "Rigo este un gargui plicticos de 80 de ani"...

                      [Romanian is a Romance language, which emerged from Latin... In this sentence, gargoyle ("gargui") comes from French (of course); boring ("plicticos") comes from New Greek "plixis"...]

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