What the hell has Lucas Matthysse accomplished in the sport of boxing?

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  • sugarsmosley
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    #61
    How could you people say lucas would get owned by "A-level guys"? are judah,devon, and dsg really a level guys? .... Lol. yeah its easy to kick a guy while he's down but he will be back.... all 3 of his losses were close he hasn't been out of a fight in his career. he's got that great equalizer still... he lost a fight doesn't mean he lost his power.

    the machine will return

    btw, im not making excuses calling his losses robberies. they coulda gone either way(cept the danny fight which he lost clearly), just saying he's never been outclassed imo

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      #62
      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
      You're still avoiding the issue. You said, "if Lucas beats guys like Bradley, Marquez, Thurman, I'll be impressed."

      Ummmm, can Garcia even beat those guys?

      You're basically saying, you'd be impressed with Lucas if he did something Garcia probably couldn't even do.

      And no, he's not the UNDISPUTED champ. He'd have to beat Ruslan for that title.
      Let me simplify this for you. Garcia beat Matthysse head up. Has Lucas done anything similar in his career? If you don't think Garcia is the man @ 140 you're hopeless.

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        #63
        Originally posted by sugarsmosley
        How could you people say lucas would get owned by "A-level guys"? are judah,devon, and dsg really a level guys? .... Lol. yeah its easy to kick a guy while he's down but he will be back.... all 3 of his losses were close he hasn't been out of a fight in his career. he's got that great equalizer still... he lost a fight doesn't mean he lost his power.

        the machine will return

        btw, im not making excuses calling his losses robberies. they coulda gone either way(cept the danny fight which he lost clearly), just saying he's never been outclassed imo
        So are you saying that Lucas has never faced an A level fighter?

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #64
          Originally posted by Since 1985
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          Originally Posted by IronDanHamza

          Matthysse is a beast.

          He proved that in the Peterson fight. Look how many good fighters Peterson has fought, no one's done that to me. Got to mean something.

          He clearly but Alexander aswell.

          I do agree though that he didn't impressive me in the Judah fight although I thought he edged it.

          That said, he's definitely a good fighter. I'd pick him to beat most of 140. Infact, everyone except Danny Garcia.

          A beast based on what? KO Lamont Peterson? Lol it takes a lot more than THAT to make a fighter great. By that logic Rahman and McCall are beasts for KO Lewis. Facts are facts and he has beaten nobody of consequence. He should move up to WW to prove himself.
          So you're saying is, Garcia struggled with a nobody and needed a lucky eye graze and ref help to beat this guy. well done sir.


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            #65
            Originally posted by Since 1985
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            Originally Posted by IronDanHamza

            I think considering the guys that Peterson has fought up to this point and how Matthysee dispatched of him unlike anyone else show's he's a top fighter with legit power.

            I didn't say he's a great fighter but he's definitely a good fighter.

            I would say he's a good fighter who's received undeserved hype. He needs to rack up some wins and put some good names on his pathetic resume. Douglas KO Tyson, one win is not enough to make a career. It's not like Peterson was some P4P fighter who was on a rampage.
            Actually, that win does make Douglas' career and he'll be remembered forever because of it.


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              #66
              Originally posted by I don't lose
              So you're saying is, Garcia struggled with a nobody and needed a lucky eye graze and ref help to beat this guy. well done sir.


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              Try hooked on phonics since you lack reading comprehension skills.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                Dude, you act like lucas didnt struggle with vivian harris and got bailed out by the ref,, you probably never seen that fight
                Are you on drugs? Lucas was on his way to knocking Harris out. The ref stoppage was bogus, but did you actually say the ref bailed Lucas out??? You just lost credibility.

                you act like lucas destroyed alexander and judah when it was very close, and danny got buzzed late, but clearly beat judah more comprehensively than lucas did
                When did I even say Lucas destroyed those guys? Show me. You can't, because I said he beat those guys.

                Judah hurt Danny, and he looked like he was lost in there. I didn't see that happen one time against Lucas, and if it was a 12 rounder, you could EASILY make an argument that he was gonna stop him.

                Which win would have looked better, then? Exactly.

                Garcia is proven vs holt, campbell, morales, judah, khan, lucas
                I've seen all those fights, and yes, those are good wins. Lucas has wins over Judah, Alexander, Peterson, Soto, Ajose, Corley, Dallas Jr (solid fighter, KOd in 1 round). What exactly is your point?

                And yes, I'm counting the Alexander and Judah fights as wins.

                Lucas has proven he can hang with guys, but his best win is lamont peterson and soto,,
                Danny has proven he can hang, but his best wins are Khan and Lucas. A fight in which he low blowed, hip shotted, head butted, and BARELY won on the score cards against a one eyed Lucas. What more do you need?


                PS danny carves up lucas even easier in the rematch
                PS. No he doesn't. What are the realistic chances that Danny grazes his eye with his glove, and causes a swelling so bad that his eye is effectively useless? And this time, I bet you Lucas will be doing some low blowing in there as well.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by I don't lose
                  Actually, that win does make Douglas' career and he'll be remembered forever because of it.


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                  Yes, he's an ATG and HOF. SMH

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Since 1985
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                    Originally Posted by I don't lose

                    So you're saying is, Garcia struggled with a nobody and needed a lucky eye graze and ref help to beat this guy. well done sir.


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                    Try hooked on phonics since you lack reading comprehension skills.
                    I read exactly what you wrote.


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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Since 1985
                      Let me simplify this for you. Garcia beat Matthysse head up. Has Lucas done anything similar in his career? If you don't think Garcia is the man @ 140 you're hopeless.
                      Again, avoiding the talking point.

                      Why would Lucas beating those guys impress you, if Danny couldn't beat those guys either? You put Lucas in that high of regard? He impresses you that much, that he has to beat guys that Danny couldn't even beat?

                      Stop posting for a while.

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