How Floyd Mayweather Engineered The Greatest Duck In Boxing History

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  • smoothsmg
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    #91
    Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
    How can he be listed top 5 p4p ever when he avoided Pacquiao who was fighter of the decade, with 4 lineal belts, and only 8 division world champ in the history of boxing? You take away Pacquiao off history and you got the likes of Gatti, Guerrero, Ortiz, Baldomir, Hatton, Alvarez, and Judah littering his B and C list of opponents.


    Recognized fighters like Dela Hoya, Cotto, Mosley, and Marquez were either faded or greatly disadvantaged by the time he fought them. And mind you how Pacquiao's wins against those were higher quality wins than Floyd's. And yes, Marquez included.
    Arum will always be a convenient excuse. If Arum was the only excuse not to fight Pac your argument would be mostly valid. But the litany of excuses one on top of the other and all documented to absolutely avoid a fight with Pacquiao makes Mayweather appear as the ducker. History will not be kind and harsh words like "petrified" and "coward" will hound him in boxing's books.

    Where is Marciano in boxing's ATG list? You people think an "0" is the greatest thing. Top people on ATG lists aren't undefeated. Pacquiao included.
    The bolded part kills me. So Manny fights De La Hoya and Mosley after Floyd, Cotto after his confidence (and brain) are almost killed by Margarito, and fights Marquez two more times after Floyd fights him. These fighters are considered faded or disadvtaged against Floyd, but I am so confused as how 4 of those 5 fights came after Floyd yet they are now considered GREAT WINS for Manny. Do you even realize what you wrote?

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    • travestyny
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      #92
      Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
      Does not matter that I believe, I'm just a boxingscene forum poster. You have the BWAA declaring him as fighter of the decade not me. You have the same people WIDELY believing and put Floyd as #1 p4p right now, and you don't seem to have a problem with it. Or do you really believe he is #1 p4p?

      And when are you going to get off the Arum excuse? Than deal with conjecture, tell me, did Floyd mention anything about Arum when people wanted Floyd to fight Dela Hoya II, Pacquiao, Margarito, Cotto, and Williams before he retired? Give me a link or anything to support your argument that Arum was the reason why he didn't want to fight those 4 before he retired. What I remember was Floyd saying "Cotto who?" and not because of Arum. The fact was Cotto was a nobody after he got beat to a pulp by Margarito and Pacquiao. Floyd took the fight after Cotto was a nobody.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3429729
      Please tell me who Pac beat to be considered fighter of the Decade. Get out of here with that garbage. I think most of those people would either say it was just because of activity, or admit they made a big mistake, but sure that's conjecture. I sure wish we could ask them because I'm confident that they know that was idiotic. He was never better than Floyd and never will be considered better than Floyd. Period.

      If you don't think Arum has anything to do with the fight being made, you are delusional. How is that new sports arena he wanted made coming along? You can't truly believe the crap you say, can you? I bet you were saying Mayweather was afraid of Cotto...but when Arum isn't around, then it's Cotto is washed up. What was he when Pac fought him at a catchweight then? How many fighters did Pac fight after Mayweather? It seems to me that the plan is just for Pac to piggyback off of Mayweather's name, try to convince the world that he is begging for the fight only to have Arum protect him by not letting it happen.

      I can tell you why he didn't fight those other guys:
      Cotto - He asked to fight him but Arum claimed Cotto wasn't ready at the time
      P. Will - He had 2 fans
      Margarito - He wasn't a big enough star. Mayweather told him to build his name.
      De La Hoya 2 - Floyd was upset because he felt he should be considered the Draw being that he whopped his ass already, but they were trying to short him on the money claiming De La Hoya was still the man.

      And guess what...looks like his business decisions turned out well. Wouldn't you agree?


      Bottom line is this. Tell the fool Pacquiao to demand the fight with Mayweather in May. Why hasn't he asked for it? Why can't anyone answer that question? Why the hell are they gonna come out and say they are fighting in April when they knew the man is fighting in May. When you can find Pac asking for the fight in May, come back and talk to me. Tell your boy to stop hiding behind his damn promoter.

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      • sapaw
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        #93
        Originally posted by travestyny
        I can tell you why he didn't fight those other guys:
        Cotto - He asked to fight him but Arum claimed Cotto wasn't ready at the time
        P. Will - He had 2 fans P. Will >>> gurerro, baldomir etc
        Margarito - He wasn't a big enough star. Mayweather told him to build his name. even other flomos will not agree with you... Remember, Margacheato is a Mexican and floyd like mexican boxer in his PPV cards... no wonder why! hahaha
        De La Hoya 2 - Floyd was upset because he felt he should be considered the Draw being that he whopped his ass already, but they were trying to short him on the money claiming De La Hoya was still the man. If De la Hoya will fight again today, it will still a PPV attraction.

        And guess what...looks like his business decisions turned out well. Wouldn't you agree?
        there you go...

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