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  • #21
    No, but even without that, Bradley still has one of the best resumes in boxing right now.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by 4Corners
      No.

      Floyd Mayweather, Tim Bradley, Andre Ward, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia are probably our Top 5. Who's got a Top 5 better then that?
      America could still have a better top 5 than any other single country - given the external factors, that should be a bare minimum - yet your overall talent pool is definitely weaker than in recent years.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
        Its been happening in the other sports like tennis Golf, American pool, etc. But nothing is as scary as the decline of American boxing. With no Heavy weight champions since 1996, and no Medals(not one) in the 2012 Olympics, If any American cannot see the long term decline of Boxing in their country then they are kidding themselves.

        I have always said Broner was a fraud, and he is on the list of Ameericans not only losing but being ran out of boxing. So ill compile a list in the recent years. Your best fighters are Floyd, Ward, Hopkins, and Bradley with Garcia a close 4th. Floyds is 37 soon and has 4 fights left which we all know he wont be able to honour and WILL LOSE. Hopkins is sandwiched between Adonis Stevenson and Sergey Kovalev at age 48. Lets be honest, hes either retiring or hes out of there. And Timothy Bradley hasn't won his last 3 fights. He got beat down by many pac, and Horrible beat down by RUslan and a draw against Marquez. Its only a matter of time before he gets schooled by khan or Garcia(Also an American). Mattyse could also school him imo.


        Here s alist of "propsects" and active High profile American fighters getting ran out of boxing.

        Seth Mitchell
        ANdre dirrell
        Curtis stevens
        Danny Jacobs
        Alan green
        Adrian Broner
        Kelly pavlik
        eddie chambers
        kevin Mitchel
        Tony Thompson(like this dude, great fighter)
        Chad Dawson

        Predicted ticking time bomb additions-Timothy bradely


        Stay tuned.



        Andre dirrell
        You may not follow or care too much for women's boxing, but two women from the United States got medals in London... One of them got gold. Amateur boxing in the U.S. fell off due to the U.S. getting shafted in the Olympics constantly. We don't care too much for those systems. We have an American boxer that knocked out an Olympic silver medalist recently as well (Amir Khan vs Danny Garcia).

        Don't forget to add Errol Spence Jr. on the list for good American prospects. And why is Kelly Pavlik on your list as a "prospect?"

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        • #24
          My point is simply this..Why do you "care" if your not from here?
          The only reason for your topic is to degrade!
          Ray.

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          • #25
            Not to mention we have a strong poll of contenders and up and comers.

            Terence Crawford, Errol Spence, Gary Russell Jr, Keith Thurman, Jermell Charlo, and Demetrius Andrade are either top prospects or top up and comers. Even Shawn Porter too.

            Our poll of former title holders and contenders is deep too.

            Bernard Hopkins, Devon Alexander, Robert Guerrero, Brandon Rios, Victor Ortiz, Paulie Malignaggi, Austin Trout, James Kirkland, Peter Quillin, Andre Dirrell, Anthony Dirrell, Chad Dawson, Diego Magdaleno, Adrien Broner, Lamont Peterson, Karim Mayfield, Malik Scott, Bryant Jennings, etc.

            Idk another country that has a pool that deep.

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            • #26
              Funny thing: Bradley's name came up several times on this thread...
              I fact Tim is the only fighter from the U.S. who recently fought and defeated a champ coming from the "Russian school of boxing"...
              ... Funny...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                Not to mention we have a strong poll of contenders and up and comers.

                Terence Crawford, Errol Spence, Gary Russell Jr, Keith Thurman, Jermell Charlo, and Demetrius Andrade are either top prospects or top up and comers. Even Shawn Porter too.

                Our poll of former title holders and contenders is deep too.

                Bernard Hopkins, Devon Alexander, Robert Guerrero, Brandon Rios, Victor Ortiz, Paulie Malignaggi, Austin Trout, James Kirkland, Peter Quillin, Andre Dirrell, Anthony Dirrell, Chad Dawson, Diego Magdaleno, Adrien Broner, Lamont Peterson, Karim Mayfield, Malik Scott, Bryant Jennings, etc.

                Idk another country that has a pool that deep.
                What other country is your size and has your resources?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  America could still have a better top 5 than any other single country - given the external factors, that should be a bare minimum - yet your overall talent pool is definitely weaker than in recent years.
                  Maybe a little bit. But we still have several potential Top P4P fighters if they develop like they are.

                  And this TS comes from the UK I believe, so he's not really in a position to talk about another country that still craps all over his in professional boxing.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    What other country is your size and has your resources?
                    So.......TS is talking like the US is on the slide in boxing, when it still has the best boxing in the world.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Art-illery View Post
                      You may not follow or care too much for women's boxing, but two women from the United States got medals in London... One of them got gold. Amateur boxing in the U.S. fell off due to the U.S. getting shafted in the Olympics constantly. We don't care too much for those systems. We have an American boxer that knocked out an Olympic silver medalist recently as well (Amir Khan vs Danny Garcia).

                      Don't forget to add Errol Spence Jr. on the list for good American prospects. And why is Kelly Pavlik on your list as a "prospect?"

                      I said Prospects and "active recent fighters" getting ran out of boxing.

                      As Dirk diggler pointed out, you may have a few champs, but you cant deny statistically you have no where near as many champs than you do in the past. It such a obvious decline and the fact that you guys are using a near 37 year old with 4 fights left and a 48 year old as a answer of why its still "not declining" is shocking.

                      As I say, we will see whos right in the next few years.

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