Victor Conte on Napkin Drama - Broner vs Maidana

[samouraļ]

I'm not saying it's confirmed he gave it to him it just needs to be looked at. It's just a Kleenex isn't a good enough excuse. Ariza needs to be questioned by the commission

Just gonna go ahead and ask this: why does he need to be questioned? Because a bunch of upset children on the Internet became su****ious of his napkin? What do you think would even come from "being questioned by the commission"?

"Ariza, did you have some bad **** in your napkin?"
"What? No!"

Would you be satisfied with that? Ariza should be questioned if Maidana's test comes back positive. If not, I really don't see how an "invisible substance" that may or may not really be there (that's the thing with invisible substances, kind of hard to know if they're even there) is grounds for questioning someone.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Just gonna go ahead and ask this: why does he need to be questioned? Because a bunch of upset children on the Internet became su****ious of his napkin? What do you think would even come from "being questioned by the commission"?

"Ariza, did you have some bad **** in your napkin?"
"What? No!"

Would you be satisfied with that? Ariza should be questioned if Maidana's test comes back positive. If not, I really don't see how an "invisible substance" that may or may not really be there (that's the thing with invisible substances, kind of hard to know if they're even there) is grounds for questioning someone.

I explained to you in another thread. The substance in question is clearly in Ariza's right hand, those white packets. Its only a question of what it is.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You guys do remember maidana headbutt him right lol. If anything the late hit was retaliation for that

You do remember broner hugging Maidana harder than hes ever hugged his own kids to prevent Chino from knocking him out, right?
Btw, it wasn't even a headbutt, he was trying to get free.

[Rhyme 4 Rhyme]

I hope too many people do not take Victor Conte seriously. It's a joke he's associated still associated with sports at all.

[samouraļ]

I explained to you in another thread. The substance in question is clearly in Ariza's right hand, those white packets. Its only a question of what it is.

Those are called cotton swabs, and they're in plain view. If not, how many of these white packets do you think he needs for one trip to the corner? Why in the hell would he need more than one packet of ammonia, bath salts, adrenaline or nitrous oxide in his hand - increasing his chance of being caught with them, I might add - just to get Maidana to look alive after one shot from Broner after the bell?

But I guess we don't have time for rational questions.

[Tyler_Durden]

Maidana didn't do anything wrong all this is just a way to take away credibility from his big win. Broner was the one using illegal and dirty tactics and Broner is the one who hit Maidana after the bell in rd 11, so Broner and the ref are both the controversial ones. Maidana went in and fought a great fight against a Broner who had all the blessings from a ref who allowed him to get away with anything he pleased and who even helped him out with a point deduction.

[Bushidō]

Just gonna go ahead and ask this: why does he need to be questioned? Because a bunch of upset children on the Internet became su****ious of his napkin? What do you think would even come from "being questioned by the commission"?

"Ariza, did you have some bad **** in your napkin?"
"What? No!"

Would you be satisfied with that? Ariza should be questioned if Maidana's test comes back positive. If not, I really don't see how an "invisible substance" that may or may not really be there (that's the thing with invisible substances, kind of hard to know if they're even there) is grounds for questioning someone.

Oh so we should ignore it because people just hate broner. You definitely have a lot of common sense.

[Bushidō]

Maidana didn't do anything wrong all this is just a way to take away credibility from his big win. Broner was the one using illegal and dirty tactics and Broner is the one who hit Maidana after the bell in rd 11, so Broner and the ref are both the controversial ones. Maidana went in and fought a great fight against a Broner who had all the blessings from a ref who allowed him to get away with anything he pleased and who even helped him out with a point deduction.

The ref was crappy as hell he should have at least took a point from broner

[SCEN3RY]

I think some are missing the bigger picture here.

Broner's illegal tactics could have been prevented or contained through the referee. But what is allegedly done here is not something a ref can prevent. And it's something that can continue to be done in the future. What's stopping anyone from doing it?

it's interesting how easily such a thing can be missed (not saying this was the case here, just in regards to Conte's tweets and that article), cutmen are always using q-tips, there's no way of even suspecting such a thing unless a fighter's nose isn't bleeding and the trainers continue to shove q-tips up his nose. Conte said he suspected Clottey of doing this verus Pacquiao. I think all trainers know about it tho and its probably just one of those accepted insider things in boxing.

On the other hand, I agree with the poster that said a lot of this is being blown up because it's Ariza in the video. Rios' failed test doesn't help matters for Team Garcia, but if this was some random cutman, most people would not have thought much of it, or even noticed it.

[samouraļ]

Oh so we should ignore it because people just hate broner. You definitely have a lot of common sense.

Did you read the post? Don't think so, because your summary of it sucks. Don't make me spell it out for you further.