Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Mayweather-Pacquiao Not Possible With Arum

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It was brought up in the Rigo thread. Bob said he couldn't promote a fighter like Floyd. He could never make him an Oscar fight and laughed at the thought...he was unmarketable. Floyd bought his contract out left and became the highest paid boxer in the history of the sport. It's not surprising he doesn't want to make money for a guy who told Floyd he wasn't going to make any money...and then went right out and did just that. You can call it petty but if my boss said I didn't have the skills to get a promotion at work, and I quit and started my own company making much more than I would've imagined just getting the promotion I'd be sour too. Business is lost on these forums though and most lack the commonsense to even try to understand it.

Yet he was willing to cut Arum in on the deal before? Strange.

[Nomadic]

They are still beating that drum.

[Carpe Diem]

It was brought up in the Rigo thread. Bob said he couldn't promote a fighter like Floyd. He could never make him an Oscar fight and laughed at the thought...he was unmarketable. Floyd bought his contract out left and became the highest paid boxer in the history of the sport. It's not surprising he doesn't want to make money for a guy who told Floyd he wasn't going to make any money...and then went right out and did just that. You can call it petty but if my boss said I didn't have the skills to get a promotion at work, and I quit and started my own company making much more than I would've imagined just getting the promotion I'd be sour too. Business is lost on these forums though and most lack the commonsense to even try to understand it.

Great post. Bottom line, Arum doesn't bow down to other promoters/fighters, they bow down to him, but Floyd and GBP have to reason to just give in to whatever Arum wants. Arum is the B-side, and he should be treated like one.

[Carpe Diem]

**** you shafter. This dude has turned into a giant d-bag over the years. When Manny agrees to everything and is at a point where he can't but accept less money, they still say no to the fight. They don't even wanna talk about it.

Arum doesn't want this fight, but the amount of sheep that continue to believe Golden Boy does is something else entirely.

And where is everybody that used to complain about Top Rank's in house fights? When's the last time Golden Boy worked with another promoter on a main event, not some ****ty untelevised undercard?

Manny is desperate enough to accept less money now, but his promoter isn't desperate for money and would make certain demands in his best interest even though he has no leverage to make demands. That's one of the problems that some Pacquiao fans refuses to acknowledge when it comes for this fight to get made. You can blame Floyd for constantly acting like Manny doesn't exist in his world, and couldn't care less about him.

You can blame Schaefer for acting like a younger version of Arum and giving him a taste of his own medicine, and you should also blame Manny for being Arum's puppet when he has power to force Arum's hand unlike his other TR promoted stablemates, but chose to remain a puppet even after years of red flags that he needed to take control of the business side of his career.

[g-wane]

Its obvious Floyd put in his contract or told Richard NO PACQUIAO fight or else I will not fight for you again.

This is the only thing I can think of. Oscar has no clue about it because he is just the puppet and name, Oscar still thinks the fight can be made, but he has no idea about the type of contract or discussions Floyd has with Richard.

Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao, and Arum excuse is lame.

How childish is this that you won't work with someone when everyone in boxing promoter wise are pretty much snakes?

You idiot !!! Pac is over 60 million in dept. to the IRS and the Philippines because of Arum and you still have the GAWL to still blame Floyd ??!! MY God pac fans are as ****** as their hero.. Letting Arum **** him out of millions and you expect Floyd to do the same just to fight Pac ?!?! GTFO !!!

[Grimgash]

Yet he was willing to cut Arum in on the deal before? Strange.

Floyd didn't have the contract he does now. Things were different for him...it didn't work out his sales skyrocketed he got a record-breaking deal...Pac got 500k ppv views in china and owes 18 mil and possibly 50 mil in taxes....Floyd has way too much leverage to have to bend at this point.

[Mike D]

You idiot !!! Pac is over 60 million in dept. to the IRS and the Philippines because of Arum and you still have the GAWL to still blame Floyd ??!! MY God pac fans are as ****** as their hero.. Letting Arum **** him out of millions and you expect Floyd to do the same just to fight Pac ?!?! GTFO !!!

[g-wane]

Pacquiao already beat Bradley and Marquez is refusing to give him a rematch. He knows he was loosing that fight too until he got lucky. C'mon Floyd, show some guts, ask for Pacquiao!

Why would he ask for a guy making a come back from a KO Loss

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Floyd didn't have the contract he does now. Things were different for him...it didn't work out his sales skyrocketed he got a record-breaking deal...Pac got 500k ppv views in china and owes 18 mil and possibly 50 mil in taxes....Floyd has way too much leverage to have to bend at this point.

Floyd's got the deal he's got so why should he care who Pacquaio gives his money too? He's always hated Bob Arum apparently so why did he want to allow Arum to be involved before?

Smoke and mirrors as usual. Yet another fake reason why this fight can't happen.

[radioraheem]

It was brought up in the Rigo thread. Bob said he couldn't promote a fighter like Floyd. He could never make him an Oscar fight and laughed at the thought...he was unmarketable. Floyd bought his contract out left and became the highest paid boxer in the history of the sport. It's not surprising he doesn't want to make money for a guy who told Floyd he wasn't going to make any money...and then went right out and did just that. You can call it petty but if my boss said I didn't have the skills to get a promotion at work, and I quit and started my own company making much more than I would've imagined just getting the promotion I'd be sour too. Business is lost on these forums though and most lack the commonsense to even try to understand it.

I agree. But fans being fans, they don't wanna hear about the business stuff being the reason fights don't get made. And that's somewhat understandable.