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2013 Boxingscene Fighter of the Year - Guillermo Rigondeaux
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Originally posted by DannYankee09 View PostNot in a foty sentence no he doesn't, you can triangle theorize it all you want that is not how it works. Campillo who just got knocked the fk out again by someone else getting robber against Cloud 2 years ago has nothing to do with the opposition level both guys faced in 2013 to say their level of opposition is comparable is beyond comprehension without the triangle theories, and the omgawd but he killed a guy doe and such of course. It's just not doable.
How is Kovalev's competition not comparable, again? Are you going to pull fake ass rankings that tell me Cloud was highly ranked or something? They are obviously comparable. The only advantage Stevenson has is Dawson, who had been weight drained and stopped in his last fight, and besides that had only had Bernard Hopkins for a win that was worth a damn in like 2 years.
Why do you think so highly of Stevenson's competition this year? It wasn't that good.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostNot to say Kovalev isn't good, but killing someone in the ring doesn't make you a great fighter.
Besides, that was simply a response to the notion that Kovalev is all hype. His record and level of opposition prove that he's a very very good fighter.
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Originally posted by DannYankee09 View PostNot in a foty sentence no he doesn't, you can triangle theorize it all you want that is not how it works. Campillo who just got knocked the fk out again by someone else getting robber against Cloud 2 years ago has nothing to do with the opposition level both guys faced in 2013 to say their level of opposition is comparable is beyond comprehension without the triangle theories, and the omgawd but he killed a guy doe and such of course. It's just not doable.
Instead, he keeps being ducked.
In fact, Cleverly recently called some of the other fighters out for ducking him. At least Cleverly had the balls to fight him.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostAnd what exactly has Cloud done since losing to Campillo to still matter? Lose to Hopkins. So he's not in any way shape or form a better win than Campillo. Who else did Stevenson fight, Bellew and Boone? Cleverly beat Bellew and was a title holder, clearly that's a better win than Bellew. Sillakh is plenty comparable to Darnell Boone, neither is that much of a win.
How is Kovalev's competition not comparable, again? Are you going to pull fake ass rankings that tell me Cloud was highly ranked or something? They are obviously comparable. The only advantage Stevenson has is Dawson, who had been weight drained and stopped in his last fight, and besides that had only had Bernard Hopkins for a win that was worth a damn in like 2 years.
Why do you think so highly of Stevenson's competition this year? It wasn't that good.
Originally posted by hitman smax View PostTalk about wild theories, your assessment that Kovalev is all hype is completely baseless. If he was a hype job, as you seem to think, more fighters would be willing to fight him.
Instead, he keeps being ducked.
In fact, Cleverly recently called some of the other fighters out for ducking him. At least Cleverly had the balls to fight him.
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