The truth about Adrien Broner - EXPOSED

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  • Shaniqua
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    #131
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
    I just don't see it man, sorry. Broner might be a hair shorter, but the dude looked AMAZING at weigh in. His camp talked about going to 154 possibly...

    If he can make 140, that would be better, but I don't think he looked tiny vs Paulie or Maidana. He looked like a lagit WW and everyone there said the same thing.

    BTW, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquaio are both 5'7". I been next to both of them and believe me, they are the same size. Difference is, Cotto is a little bit thicker, while Manny's lower body is more powerfully built.
    How you look doesn't mean anything, bodybuilders look good on stage but they're not in good condition.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #132
      Originally posted by Shaniqua
      How you look doesn't mean anything, bodybuilders look good on stage but they're not in good condition.
      Stop trolling or do a better job.

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      • Humean
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        #133
        Broner got too used to using his size advantages to overwhelm his opponents at the lower weight classes. I'm sure if his trainer is up to the task, or a new trainer if not, can sort out his clear deficiencies, particularly his footwork, for the future. Broner does have a lot of talent but it just feels like he isn't putting it to its proper use. Maidana certainly exposed the hype but Broner should be able to bounce back from this as a better fighter unless of course he doesn't have the motivation and/or self-awareness of his limitations. A lot of the time it seemed like Broner was an actor playing Mayweather in a movie but unfortunately for him he is not Mayweather and the Maidana fight was a real fight. I don't think though that we should count Broner out yet at welterweight.

        As for the size thing, Broner is defintiely a welterweight and he can't make lightweight anymore. Pretty much all the top junior welterweights are the same size as the top welterweights, I mean they fight at the same fight night weight most of the time as typical welterweights do and some even more so. Example:

        Alvarado (139.8) 157 Provodnikov (139.8) 148
        Pacquiao (147) 150 Bradley (146) 147

        Anyway time for Broner to realize that things just got a lot tougher and he needs to adapt to it.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #134
          Originally posted by Humean
          Broner got too used to using his size advantages to overwhelm his opponents at the lower weight classes. I'm sure if his trainer is up to the task, or a new trainer if not, can sort out his clear deficiencies, particularly his footwork, for the future. Broner does have a lot of talent but it just feels like he isn't putting it to its proper use. Maidana certainly exposed the hype but Broner should be able to bounce back from this as a better fighter unless of course he doesn't have the motivation and/or self-awareness of his limitations. A lot of the time it seemed like Broner was an actor playing Mayweather in a movie but unfortunately for him he is not Mayweather and the Maidana fight was a real fight. I don't think though that we should count Broner out yet at welterweight.

          As for the size thing, Broner is defintiely a welterweight and he can't make lightweight anymore. Pretty much all the top junior welterweights are the same size as the top welterweights, I mean they fight at the same fight night weight most of the time as typical welterweights do and some even more so. Example:

          Alvarado (139.8) 157 Provodnikov (139.8) 148
          Pacquiao (147) 150 Bradley (146) 147

          Anyway time for Broner to realize that things just got a lot tougher and he needs to adapt to it.
          I agree and I think that Broner is a talented fighter. I just wanted to point out the overhype he received.

          Let's see if he comes back, because there's some great fights at 147 for him.

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          • MrRolltide91
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            #135
            dude can still bounce back and be a great fighter.

            there are some great fights at 147, so broner will have a chance to prove himself.

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            • alexguiness
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              #136
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              The second knockdown was a double left hook. First one hurt him, the second one knocked him back and down.

              Funny thing is, in the shell you should never get hit with left hooks because your right hand should be stuck to your chin and right elbow tight on the body.

              Broner fell for one of the oldest tricks in boxing, setting up the headshot with the body shot. In this case it was a jab, that was turned into a hook.

              Morales was great at this, he caught Danny Garcia many times with it, but he threw the jab to the head, right hand to the body and then back up with the left hook.

              If Broner would have been more disciplined in his shell, he would have never been hit with these. I think he did it because Maidana's body work was hurting him, so he had to pay attention to the body shots. Against Paulie, he wasn't even paying them no mind.
              Excellent analysis - I think this is where Maidana has really improved and refined himself tactically.

              The body shots really hurt Broner - even when he was taking them on the arms / elbow.

              Defensively I thought Broner was totally exposed - Maidana will always be a puncher, but he had the perfect game plan to beat Broner.

              It was a victory for boxing last weekend, Broner totally underestimated his opponent, which at any level (let alone Professional) is arrogant, dangerous and ******.

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              • New England
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                #137
                i agree that the huge difference in performance is due to the size of his opponents. at 135 and 130 he tooks guy's best shots, and had real power. that silly shoulder roll actually worked against little guys.

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                • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by alexguiness
                  Excellent analysis - I think this is where Maidana has really improved and refined himself tactically.

                  The body shots really hurt Broner - even when he was taking them on the arms / elbow.

                  Defensively I thought Broner was totally exposed - Maidana will always be a puncher, but he had the perfect game plan to beat Broner.

                  It was a victory for boxing last weekend, Broner totally underestimated his opponent, which at any level (let alone Professional) is arrogant, dangerous and ******.
                  I don't know if Broner underestimated Maidana. I think Broner knows one way. I'm not sure if he's not capable of getting better, or he hasn't been trained properly.

                  Before the fight happened, I said that one of two things will happen. Either we will see Broner do something different and show us he has another dimension, or he will stand in front of Maidana and take a beating.

                  Well we know what happened, and it's because his corner made no attempt to change what he was going to do because they thought that Broner's defense was more than what it really was.

                  Broner better use his feet, or he's in big trouble at 147. Either that or he will have to starve himself to get back to 135, but there's no money there, and we all know Broner is all about the Billions.....lol

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                  • BattleAxePurist
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                    #139
                    Broner doesn't appear like the kind of guy to admit he's something he's not when he's gone to great lengths to build this image up.

                    Meaning he'll probably still fight the same exact way, which is a poor imitation of a certain way of defending that he doesn't understand properly,Don't see Broner fighting on the balls of his toes with lateral movement, Maidana was a handpicked opponent by GB , he struggled against movement so they give him a straight forward slower brawler and he proceded to get beat up.

                    Maidana is a lot better than he's perceived he did what he wanted bcse there was nothing Broner could do to thwart it, that really says a lot.

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