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The truth about Adrien Broner - EXPOSED
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I have said for a long time that Broner is not as good as some thought. Now, after the fight, I thought Malignaggi was dead on when he said that he hadn't fought the level of competition that deserved him the recognition he was getting.
He described them as "Laundromat workers" but in reality they were just really small guys. Broner did NOT go up in weight, that is a misconception. He was and is a WW. He wasn't making 135 anymore, let alone 130. He paid fines and looked HUGE vs guys like Reese and Demarco. At 147 he looked the best I have ever seen him physically, he was RIPPED. It's his natural weight and there's a reason his camp even said he could go up to 154 one day.
So is he that bad or is Maidana that good? I said that if Broner is to beat Miadana, he would have to do one thing we haven't seen, and that's move. Use his footwork to out box Maidana but we had never seen that of Broner.
Well, he can't move. He has no footwork, his philly shell is very hittable and we now see that getting hit by a lagit WW is a different thing all together. Broner just doesn't have the output of punches needed to counter and win on points, doesn't have the power to hurt any of the big WW (maybe except Khan with his chin but Khan is 2X the fighter) and he doesn't have the undefeated thing to promote himself with.
His image took a hit, and Maidana showed that when he can't hurt you with his shots initially, he's in big trouble. I don't see him beating any of the top WW to be honest, unless he learns to move the way we saw Thurman evolve in his game. Broner has to become a boxer/puncher to have success again at this weight.
On one last note about his character. I don't care the way he acts, the ****** things he does but...
I believe if you are going to run your mouth, be a pro and a man and do the post fight interview. He was dirty in the fight, acted like a lowlife in dry humping Maidana, exaggerated the headbutt to the chin, was knocked down and said he was pushed, hit after the bell and ran away when it was time to pay the piper.
I don't believe in Karma, but it sure looks like it was handed out tonight.
Anyone who was comparing him seriously to the next Mayweather was high on bird s**t. Broner had some solid wins over Ponce, DeMarco, and Paulie. But even in two of those, he struggled. I knew from the second he displayed no footwork or movement the first minute of this fight, he was losing. He lost a fan tonight in me, straight up clown.
Floyd acts like an idiot sometimes and says some dumb stuff outside the ring at times, but he's 150% focused on the task at hand in the ring. That's why he's the best fighter of his time.
Broner displays no footwork, has a terribly low work rate, and can't adjust beyond Plan A.Comment
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Exposed is probably the most overused word on this entire forum, but this is one of the few instances where I feel it's use is appropriate. Broner was outboxed and out jabbed as well as outfought. He didnt have answers for anything Maidana did. I don't know how he thought he was the next Floyd, withouth the reflexes or foot movement. With average foot speed, decent power, a come forward style while lacking the reflexes needed for a Floyd style defense, he'd be better off trying to emulate a Winky Wright style of boxing. He'll never touch Winky in terms of accomplishments or skill, but it'd be a better fit for him than trying to be Floyd.
I also think the Berto comparisons are unfair, Berto does everything better than Broner does except for the shoulder roll where they're about equal. Berto was overhyped too, but he has real pop and very fast hands. His boxing fundamentals are also better than Broners. I wouldn't even rank Broner up there with Joel Julio off of Saturdays performance.Comment
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like paulie said in the interview he was exposed long ago in my opinion since the Ponce de leon fight. Thats the first time i saw him fight .Comment
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Good question because the philly shell is made to primarily counter the right hand. If you remember correctly, everyone claimed that Floyd would have problems with lefties because they would pose this problem. Of course we know Floyd can deal with lefties.
If you do the philly shell properly, it's made to counter the right hand because you roll the right hand, hide your counter right and land when the opponent isn't expecting.
The punch that is best against the shell, is the jab. Cotto showed that against Floyd, but was open when he himself threw his right hand. He was hurt when he threw a right hand, Floyd countered him with the right uppercut which is also very risky in the shell.
The difference is Broner was paying too much attention to the right hand and was hurt by the left hook. Which you should be ready for because your right elbow is covering your body and your right hand is on your chin.
He fell for the feints to the body, and Maidana simply turned the jab to the body over as a hook to the head.Comment
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Awesome post. I don't know why Broner didn't adjust his style at all. You aren't gonna be able to beat everyone with the same tactics. Maidana threw 2x as many punches. You aren't gonna win that battle with such a low punch output on top of already not being that hard to hit.Comment
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I have said for a long time that Broner is not as good as some thought. Now, after the fight, I thought Malignaggi was dead on when he said that he hadn't fought the level of competition that deserved him the recognition he was getting.
He described them as "Laundromat workers" but in reality they were just really small guys. Broner did NOT go up in weight, that is a misconception. He was and is a WW. He wasn't making 135 anymore, let alone 130. He paid fines and looked HUGE vs guys like Reese and Demarco. At 147 he looked the best I have ever seen him physically, he was RIPPED. It's his natural weight and there's a reason his camp even said he could go up to 154 one day.
So is he that bad or is Maidana that good? I said that if Broner is to beat Miadana, he would have to do one thing we haven't seen, and that's move. Use his footwork to out box Maidana but we had never seen that of Broner.
Well, he can't move. He has no footwork, his philly shell is very hittable and we now see that getting hit by a lagit WW is a different thing all together. Broner just doesn't have the output of punches needed to counter and win on points, doesn't have the power to hurt any of the big WW (maybe except Khan with his chin but Khan is 2X the fighter) and he doesn't have the undefeated thing to promote himself with.
His image took a hit, and Maidana showed that when he can't hurt you with his shots initially, he's in big trouble. I don't see him beating any of the top WW to be honest, unless he learns to move the way we saw Thurman evolve in his game. Broner has to become a boxer/puncher to have success again at this weight.
On one last note about his character. I don't care the way he acts, the ****** things he does but...
I believe if you are going to run your mouth, be a pro and a man and do the post fight interview. He was dirty in the fight, acted like a lowlife in dry humping Maidana, exaggerated the headbutt to the chin, was knocked down and said he was pushed, hit after the bell and ran away when it was time to pay the piper.
I don't believe in Karma, but it sure looks like it was handed out tonight.Comment
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