The truth about Adrien Broner - EXPOSED

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Broner wanted to be Floyd Mayweather Jr. without putting in all the "hard work and dedication," in the sense that he overestimated himself IMO. He drank his own kool-aid and thought he was a better fighter than he actually was, just because he shared vague similarities to Floyd. I think all the buzz and hype he got gave him a false sense of confidence and in came Maidana, a total pro and hard-working man, who gave him an ice cold dose of reality. Macros Maidana knew who he was as a fighter realistically, knew his strengths and limitations, Broner didn't and that was his undoing.

[SplitSecond]

Height does not mean your weight, when will boxing fans understand this? Pac and Cotto are the same height, do you think Pac is as big as Cotto? LOL come on guys. Broner is a muscular, thick guy, he is not a 140lber, he's a WW.

i didn't say it was because of height, im piling up reasons obviously

his bones are thin and he's shorter
pacquiao and cotto aren't the same height neither, and cotto is obviously thicker boned, cotto used to have a solid 8 pac, now barely has 4 at 154, he's put on some fat

broner is ripped yea, he's got a strong core, wide shoulders, kind of like pacquiao but also like pacquiao he doesn't really belong at 147, fighting actual 147 lb'ers, pacquiao does have bigger bones
and unlike pacquiao, he's not as fercious, skilled or explosive

malignaggi and maidana looked so much bigger and thicker than him despite him being shorter(usually the taller guy is thinner)

i just think he should be at 140, but again, not sure how much good it will do him when he just isn't that good

[hectari]

His ability to recover from Maidanas power shots shows he is a legit welterweight, he was huge guy knocking out smaller guys, he has no power at 147 even Paulie said Broner has to really hit you with the perfect punch combo to buzz you, he hit Maidana with a perfect combo and buzzed him just a tad, but Maidana isn't known for a great chin he gets dropped a lot but has great recovery.

[hugh grant]

Roach said he had seen Broner badly hurt in sparring sessions, who those sparring sessions were against though I don't know.

So we kind of knew Broner might be a little overated, or highly overated if you want to be honest. Don't know why Maidana couldn't stop him though?

[radioraheem]

Why was Broner such a sucker for the left hook? I really didn't expect him to be outsmarted like that against Maidana. It had been shown in previous fights that his defence had a lot of leaks, but I didn't think it was that bad.

Mostly because he wasn't keeping his right hand up. For whatever reason, in a lot of instances, he was dropping his hands. The first knockdown, he dropped both hands before getting hit. Rather than raising the right to try and catch it. It was a shot he was not supposed to get hit with that easily.

I think the pressure of Maidana really helped to throw him off his game too.

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So we kind of knew Broner might be a little overated, or highly overated if you want to be honest. Don't know why Maidana couldn't stop him though?

Broner's pretty thick and sausage like if nothing else-- If his balance is OK I think he's pretty hard to get off his feet. Also, Chino had him hurt a couple of times and didn't jump in blind. It's not that Chino didn't press to get Broner out of there, it's just that he seemed to make reasonably sure he wasn't going to get caught himself and let him go a few times.

[The Gambler1981]

He was paying too much attention to the jab, why a jab works against the shoulder roll is that you need to let it go because if you react the other guy can make an opening for much bigger shots. You want to come over the jab at times so the guy can't just abuse you with it but you can't try and defend everything, Broner didn't understand that concept.

He got outmaneuvered plain and simple, he might have worked hard for the fight but working hard without understanding why you do certain things leads to wasted effort. So no matter what he did on the physical side he needed a lot more work on the mental side.


Maybe a loss like this can spur him in that direction, he certainly wasn't going to go that route of his own accord.

[radioraheem]

He was paying too much attention to the jab, why a jab works against the shoulder roll is that you need to let it go because if you react the other guy can make an opening for much bigger shots. You want to come over the jab at times so the guy can't just abuse you with it but you can't try and defend everything, Broner didn't understand that concept.

He got outmaneuvered plain and simple, he might have worked hard for the fight but working hard without understanding why you do certain things leads to wasted effort. So no matter what he did on the physical side he needed a lot more work on the mental side.


Maybe a loss like this can spur him in that direction, he certainly wasn't going to go that route of his own accord.

Exactly that. Working hard doesn't guarantee success. There's more to it than just that.

[bojangles1987]

Exposed is probably the most overused word on this entire forum, but this is one of the few instances where I feel it's use is appropriate. Broner was outboxed and out jabbed as well as outfought. He didnt have answers for anything Maidana did. I don't know how he thought he was the next Floyd, withouth the reflexes or foot movement. With average foot speed, decent power, a come forward style while lacking the reflexes needed for a Floyd style defense, he'd be better off trying to emulate a Winky Wright style of boxing. He'll never touch Winky in terms of accomplishments or skill, but it'd be a better fit for him than trying to be Floyd.
I also think the Berto comparisons are unfair, Berto does everything better than Broner does except for the shoulder roll where they're about equal. Berto was overhyped too, but he has real pop and very fast hands. His boxing fundamentals are also better than Broners. I wouldn't even rank Broner up there with Joel Julio off of Saturdays performance.

It wasn't just used correctly, this was one of the great examples you could ever point to of a fighter being exposed. It doesn't get more "exposed" than Broner was.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

i didn't say it was because of height, im piling up reasons obviously

his bones are thin and he's shorter
pacquiao and cotto aren't the same height neither, and cotto is obviously thicker boned, cotto used to have a solid 8 pac, now barely has 4 at 154, he's put on some fat

broner is ripped yea, he's got a strong core, wide shoulders, kind of like pacquiao but also like pacquiao he doesn't really belong at 147, fighting actual 147 lb'ers, pacquiao does have bigger bones
and unlike pacquiao, he's not as fercious, skilled or explosive

malignaggi and maidana looked so much bigger and thicker than him despite him being shorter(usually the taller guy is thinner)

i just think he should be at 140, but again, not sure how much good it will do him when he just isn't that good

I just don't see it man, sorry. Broner might be a hair shorter, but the dude looked AMAZING at weigh in. His camp talked about going to 154 possibly...

If he can make 140, that would be better, but I don't think he looked tiny vs Paulie or Maidana. He looked like a lagit WW and everyone there said the same thing.

BTW, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquaio are both 5'7". I been next to both of them and believe me, they are the same size. Difference is, Cotto is a little bit thicker, while Manny's lower body is more powerfully built.