ESPN's Latest P4P List (Through Dec. 9)

[SnakeVen0m]

This is a good list IMO. Very reasonable.

[New England]

NE turning thing nationalistic as usual. Froch and Mares have infinitely better resumes then GGG has got so far.

I, like a lot of people, thought Froch was on his way to stopping Groves legitimately so i don't really see any reason to take him off. Mares got caught cold by a guy with big one punch power. He's still a beast and he still has p4p skills (proven against other world class fighters).

Both are more deserving than GGG at the moment.

mares

like i said, i don't expect a brit to see carl froch clearly, but abner f#cking mares.

mares doesn't even remember his last fight.



i heard cordingly got froch an armchair, a pipe, and a blanket for christmas. retirement is near, dog. you just gotta accept it and move on. froch was a pretty good little fighter, and you guys can be proud.

[Public_Enemy]

Nice list?? How the **** are Bradley,JMM and Pacman above Rigo?? Terrible, awful disgrace.

Bradley should be above Rigo. It's close but it's not a disgrace for him to be above. Now JMM and Pacquiao I can't defend.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by Tom Cruise

I dont think GGG has earned his spot yet. How ever many fighters may or may not be ducking him he just doesnt have the top class wins to be P4P top 10 imo. I reckon either Mares or Froch should take his place. Both coming off bad performances/losses, but both have huge depth to their resume

I'd also have Rigo above Manny.

Sergio is debateable as well as he is clearly not the fighter he was. But i'll give him the benefit of the doubt until his next fight...



dog, you just can't have mares as a top 10 p4p guy. he was stopped in one round by jhonny flippin gonzales.


and i know you brits can't be reasoned with when it comes to froch, but he looked 200 years old against george groves. he looked like he needed an oil change

Did Froch win his last fight or not? Was it via stoppage or not?

Thank you.



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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by New England

dog, you just can't have mares as a top 10 p4p guy. he was stopped in one round by jhonny flippin gonzales.


and i know you brits can't be reasoned with when it comes to froch, but he looked 200 years old against george groves. he looked like he needed an oil change

NE turning thing nationalistic as usual. Froch and Mares have infinitely better resumes then GGG has got so far.

I, like a lot of people, thought Froch was on his way to stopping Groves legitimately so i don't really see any reason to take him off. Mares got caught cold by a guy with big one punch power. He's still a beast and he still has p4p skills (proven against other world class fighters).

Both are more deserving than GGG at the moment.

Nationalistic? Nah. The dude is an undercover fanboy but he's the first one to call other people fanboys.


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[The Big Dunn]

i'm almost positive that froch was on the espn p4p list before the groves fight. mine, too.

I think you are correct. But why drop him? Most voters prob didn't see fight. Thats another indication its weighted toward US TV.

Look at GGG? Is beating STevens and his string of KO wins more impressive than Froch's winning all his fights except ward? IMO, no.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Having GGG on a P4P list is as laughable as Teddy Atlas having Lomachenko at #10.

Laughable.


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[WilkinsOlajuwon]

swap GGG for Froch and this list is as good as any.

[Tom Cruise]

mares

like i said, i don't expect a brit to see carl froch clearly, but abner f#cking mares.

mares doesn't even remember his last fight.



i heard cordingly got froch an armchair, a pipe, and a blanket for christmas. retirement is near, dog. you just gotta accept it and move on. froch was a pretty good little fighter, and you guys can be proud.

Ok so you've just repeated yourself there so i don't know what else to say.

Mares is the same fighter he always was and pretty soon he will be back to making world class fighters his b*tch (unless he runs into Rigo that is). He has p4p skills and a p4p resume... So he's in contention to be no.10 on my p4p list. Simples.

Froch really didn't look that much worse than any other fight we've seen him in. Groves was better than expected, Froch as always looked clumsy, but he still won. There really aren't any grounds to drop Froch to be honest.

Kovalev, Stevenson, Lara, could all legitimately take it off GGG aswell.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Marquez isn't P4P quality