ESPN's Latest P4P List (Through Dec. 9)

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  • RespekonMyName
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    #11
    Manny top 5 P4P days are over for the time being. He has to earn that spot back. Garcia and Rigo should be above him.

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    • Heru
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      #12
      Originally posted by Weebler I
      Agreed, Golovkin shouldn't be on the list. Kovalev actually has better wins, not to mention Stevenson.
      Good observation... After reading the list, I was about to say the same.

      Also, I don't have an issue with placing a Heavyweight in a P4P list except a Heavyweight that outweighs his opponents by 20 pounds especially his best opponents. Stevenson, Kovalev, Roman Gonzalez, Mikey Garcia, Froch, and Donaire should get consideration for those spots.

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      • New England
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        #13
        wladimir is too low, and sergio is too high. my list is pretty similar, doe.

        take sergio out and put mikey in and i have the same guys.


        i'm also ready to puyt the winner of pimp steven and crusher kovalev above everbody but floyd, rigondeaux, ward, and wladimir. those two are on a run.

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        • New England
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          I dont think GGG has earned his spot yet. How ever many fighters may or may not be ducking him he just doesnt have the top class wins to be P4P top 10 imo. I reckon either Mares or Froch should take his place. Both coming off bad performances/losses, but both have huge depth to their resume

          I'd also have Rigo above Manny.

          Sergio is debateable as well as he is clearly not the fighter he was. But i'll give him the benefit of the doubt until his next fight...


          dog, you just can't have mares as a top 10 p4p guy. he was stopped in one round by jhonny flippin gonzales.


          and i know you brits can't be reasoned with when it comes to froch, but he looked 200 years old against george groves. he looked like he needed an oil change

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          • RawDawgHasSpokn
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            #15
            What everybody is saying about GGG is spot on. JMM and Pac are too high as well. I'd give Stevenson the nod over both Kovalev and GGG, today.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #16
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              1. Floyd
              2. Ward
              3. Bradley
              4. JMM
              5. Manny
              6. Rigo
              7. Sergio
              8. Wlad
              9. D. Garcia
              10. GGG

              Nice list, I think.
              ESPN's list seems heavily weighted toward fighters who perform on US television. Froch and Roman Gonzalez got barely any votes. To have GGG at 10 above Nonito or Froch is simply garbage.

              On ESPN's list Lomanchenko at 1-0 got one 10th place vote. Roman Gonzalez at 35-0 got one 1oth place vote as well. That should illustrate the problem with their voters.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #17
                Nice list?? How the **** are Bradley,JMM and Pacman above Rigo?? Terrible, awful disgrace.

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                • New England
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  ESPN's list seems heavily weighted toward fighters who perform on US television. Froch and Roman Gonzalez got barely any votes. To have GGG at 10 above Nonito or Froch is simply garbage.

                  On ESPN's list Lomanchenko at 1-0 got one 10th place vote. Roman Gonzalez at 35-0 got one 1oth place vote as well. That should illustrate the problem with their voters.


                  i'm almost positive that froch was on the espn p4p list before the groves fight. mine, too.

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                  • Tom Cruise
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by New England
                    dog, you just can't have mares as a top 10 p4p guy. he was stopped in one round by jhonny flippin gonzales.


                    and i know you brits can't be reasoned with when it comes to froch, but he looked 200 years old against george groves. he looked like he needed an oil change
                    NE turning thing nationalistic as usual. Froch and Mares have infinitely better resumes then GGG has got so far.

                    I, like a lot of people, thought Froch was on his way to stopping Groves legitimately so i don't really see any reason to take him off. Mares got caught cold by a guy with big one punch power. He's still a beast and he still has p4p skills (proven against other world class fighters).

                    Both are more deserving than GGG at the moment.

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #20
                      There are quite a few fighters who belong above Golovkin. And Rigo should be top 5.

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