Would Floyd actually outbox Rigondeaux p4p?

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  • Wokingman
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    #31
    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
    Stick up my ass? You're the one here dissing fighters and talking about someone beating someone's ass. In a fight between Rigo and Mayweather there wouldn't be no ass beating.

    You wanna list deficiencies about a fighter when they wouldn't even be a factor in a fight between them.


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    I'm not dissing Rigondeaux is a master boxer, an absolute phenomenal boxer but so is Floyd who brings so much more at the table.

    Floyd is the American that beat a Cuban in the olympics which didn't happen in 20+ years before and 18 years since.

    You must factor in everything about the two fighters if we talking about a match up p4p it helps illustrate and conceptualizer what may happen most likely.

    Floyd will lead, even though he can box it will just spoil the fight. So he will show why he is the best at the craft. If Lara fight happen I will have a better sample.. Floyd wouldn't box Lara he will show Trout how negate that powerful left, clinch and pick apart his defense. He pressure Cuban master boxers.. Watch him the AMA..

    Rigondeaux in my opinion destroys everyone at the lower weights.. He's a true demon.. It's just that Floyd is Satan.

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    • -=Shade=-
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      #32
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      Floyd isn't exactly a slouch going forward and he is a master at setting traps as well.
      I tend to agree. Everything else being equal, Floyd might not win it on the boxing, but he'd edge it out. Though it would probably be the anti-fight of the year. Two technical guys with a lot n the line who prefer to go backwards. Heck, I like Rigo and I think it would be awful.
      Last edited by -=Shade=-; 12-09-2013, 11:51 AM.

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      • The904star
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        #33
        Originally posted by Wokingman
        I'm not dissing Rigondeaux is a master boxer, an absolute phenomenal boxer but so is Floyd who brings so much more at the table.

        Floyd is the American that beat a Cuban in the olympics which didn't happen in 20+ years before and 18 years since.

        You must factor in everything about the two fighters if we talking about a match up p4p it helps illustrate and conceptualizer what may happen most likely.

        Floyd will lead, even though he can box it will just spoil the fight. So he will show why he is the best at the craft. If Lara fight happen I will have a better sample.. Floyd wouldn't box Lara he will show Trout how negate that powerful left, clinch and pick apart his defense. He pressure Cuban master boxers.. Watch him the AMA..

        Rigondeaux in my opinion destroys everyone at the lower weights.. He's a true demon.. It's just that Floyd is Satan.

        Good post. I think Floyd's ams win over a Cuban shows that he has an equal boxing pedigree. I don't think rigo being a southpaw changes anything either because since Judah, I think Floyd has developed the correct strategy to beat a southpaw. And that model has been duplicated by ward and others I've seen. The straight to the body unlocks the straight right upstairs (ex: Ortiz, Guerrero). We have also seen others boxers use this same model (ex: ward vs Dawson, canelo vs trout). Watch Barry robinson's video of how to fight a southpaw. Of course a southpaw would try to counter this with an uppercut, which Guerrero's dad kept trying to get RG to do. We also saw rigo try to land this on agbeko which he couldn't really do. Only problem with the uppercut stopping Floyd from throwing the right to the body is that Floyd can duck under it like he did Ortiz and Guerrero, in a way that we did not see him do against Judah. I think Floyd wins this fantasy matchup but we haven't seen enough of rigo to say for sure. We have seen Floyd progress and learn from his mistakes. We have not had a chance to see if rigo can do the same. Maybe rigo would have a chance against a young, inexperienced Floyd, but no chance against the Floyd we see now.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #34
          Originally posted by DempseyRollin
          Are u implying Floyd hasn't torn fighters up on the inside before? Don't do that u just embrarass yourself.
          No, not at all. What I am implying however is that (these fighters Floyd bossed on the inside pale in comparison to the skill that Rigo possess).

          So again I'm asking who are these fighters that Floyd bossed on the inside?? So that we can debate how irrelevant your comparison is, brother.

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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #35
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            Ha now Floyd's ducking Erislandy Lara. Yet no one is asking the true 154 fighter in size, Canelo, to fight him. If Lara beats Canelo, if he gets that fight, it can only strengthen his chance to fight Floyd. Who did Lara call out after Trout.....oh yeah Canelo Alvarez.

            Anyways, it's lie saying Rigondeaux would out box Andre Ward P4P, who gives a crap??? They're totally different weight classes, so we don't know what would happen.

            Mayweather is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. I don't see Rigondeaux traveling into 5 different weight classes anytime soon.
            That's what P4P means, how well they match up against each other. Well, that's what it used to mean anyway.


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            • samouraï
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              #36
              Rigo is quite possibly the better boxer.

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              • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                #37
                Seriously now, Floyd beat "A" Cuban so therefore he beats Rigo? Some people don't even think Floyd won that fight.

                If we're gonna use that logic then lets not forget Pedro Diaz's fighter beat Floyd in the amateurs. So that means we know how to beat him too.

                Zzz lame theories.


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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #38
                  I don't agree with one has better defense than the other. They both have impenetrable defense just different type of defenses.


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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 4Corners
                    Ha now Floyd's ducking Erislandy Lara. Yet no one is asking the true 154 fighter in size, Canelo, to fight him. If Lara beats Canelo, if he gets that fight, it can only strengthen his chance to fight Floyd. Who did Lara call out after Trout.....oh yeah Canelo Alvarez.

                    Anyways, it's lie saying Rigondeaux would out box Andre Ward P4P, who gives a crap??? They're totally different weight classes, so we don't know what would happen.

                    Mayweather is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. I don't see Rigondeaux traveling into 5 different weight classes anytime soon.
                    Well Einstein, seems like someone doesn't really know what the mythical term pfp stands for and just exposed themselves something epic.

                    That's exactly what pfp stands for. (a mythical proposal of a matchup involving 2 fighters if they were the same size).

                    Therefore one can propose such a mythical matchup. What?? Did you think pfp means (how much ppv a fighter sells)??

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                    • ImStillHere
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                      #40
                      Ok Floyd is one of my favorite fighters ever and I respect him so much and at times I've taught of him as unbeatable but he is clearly inferior to Rigondeaux. Even the way Rigondeaux stands is a testament to his robotic like precision. He is too explosive offensively for Floyd to get out of the way. It would be a great fight. 2 ATG's but Rigo would hurt Floyd. I've seen ever Floyd fight and every Rigo fight and Rigo is just better. His movement is more graceful than a young Ali. The only guys P4P in history I give a chance to beat Rigondeaux are Robinson/Leonard/Pep/Saddler/Burley/Charles/Whitaker/Floyd(Floyd is so good i'll never be sure)Armstrong/Lamotta/Frazier. They are the only guys in the history of boxing who even have a CHANCE in my view.

                      Pep vs Rigondeaux at 126 would have been the greatest BOXING match of all time.

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