Chris John: End of an Era

[soul_survivor]

John was a very good fighter but I saw the John-Marquez fight and I thought Marquez won easily by many points. In almost all the rounds Marquez took the fight to John and he landed more punches and harder punches. The guy from Ring that scored the fight 116 to 110 for John was way off the mark. I scored it Marquez 117 John 111.

r u one o them **** who thinks JMM beat Pac every single time and beat Bradley too? cos if u are, u can get the *** outta my thread ma***a

Man this thread just shows the piss poor intellect we have here, **** really does roll

[Hougigo]

Didn't have the greatest resume, but I respect him for not staying at home with his belt like other champs and being the people's hero.

Also, I always respect a man who rises from poverty to do all this

[boxingbrain28]

You know that the Marquez fight wasn't a robbery because he Marquez didn't cry as much as he usually does. I mean every time a decision goes against him he goes into denial, and the Bradley fight was just ridiculous. Nacho was telling him that he was winning

[daggum]

I read in this tread that Cotto is undefeated but I saw Pacquiao win almost every round and knock Cotto out. Cotto ran away the last 9 rounds of the fight. I saw Margarito come from behind to KO Cotto and no proof Margarito's gloves were load, only assumptions. I saw Mayweather outpoint Cotto by a wide margin and I saw Trout beat Cotto in the Garden. I thought Cotto could easily have lost his fight with Clottey as well. Cotto is a good and very popular fighter but his is not undefeated. Not even close.

hmmm i'm pretty sure cotto is in fact undefeated

[Cuban Linx]

From a skill stand point, he was very good. A very skilled boxer

But he's not going to be remembered favorably. When his name gets brought up people will first mention that he only fought in Indonesia, and only fought against bums. Then they'll remember the Marquez fight, which was controversial (I did think John won, but it could have went to Marquez easily).

[daggum]

Didn't have the greatest resume, but I respect him for not staying at home with his belt like other champs and being the people's hero.

Also, I always respect a man who rises from poverty to do all this

thats true. he traveled the world to find bums to fight. props!

[daggum]

You know that the Marquez fight wasn't a robbery because he Marquez didn't cry as much as he usually does. I mean every time a decision goes against him he goes into denial, and the Bradley fight was just ridiculous. Nacho was telling him that he was winning

why would he cry? "oh i was robbed vs chris john!" then people would say "who the hell is chris john?" it was better just to forget about it and not bring it up because no one even noticed or cared. he was back fighting pac the next year anyway while chris john was fighting tba. gary russel's old nemesis.

[Ham Porter]

You don't need to go from one extreme to another. The Marquez fight was neither a robbery or a clear victory for John, just an extremely close fight with a lot of swing rounds. Unfortunately ruined by two **** point deductions.


John was a good boxer but that's it. Fifty odd title defenses don't mean a damn thing against mostly soft opposition.

[Hougigo]

From a skill stand point, he was very good. A very skilled boxer

But he's not going to be remembered favorably. When his name gets brought up people will first mention that he only fought in Indonesia, and only fought against bums. Then they'll remember the Marquez fight, which was controversial (I did think John won, but it could have went to Marquez easily).

Of his 20 title fights (I'm including the interim WBA)
He fought outside Indonesia 10 times.
Not many Champions do that 50 percent of the time

[daggum]

Of his 20 title fights (I'm including the interim WBA)
He fought outside Indonesia 10 times.
Not many Champions do that 50 percent of the time

out of his 20 title fights only 3 were against to 10 guys and juarez was only ranked based on the gift draw he got in the first fight against john. enoki also lost 4 out of his next 5 so yeah he ******. if floyd or roy jones traveled to fight unranked bums you would be happy? look here's roy jones destroying a bum in estonia! oh now he's destroying a bum in bolivia! bums around the world beware!