Comments Thread For: Bradley's Trainer Prefers Pacquiao Fight Over Marquez

[LouIE G]

That's a tough one man..honestly I couldn't even answer that one...my grandpops though would talk you through half the day about that one..lol.

I bring that fight up because it one of the more famous fight where fans are split down the middle,my dad was a hagler fan and he told me about this fight,i was like 10 yrs old and had just began to train in boxing,anyways we watched the fight and he felt hagler won it,and i felt leonard won it...five years later we watched jt again and same thing,its just one of those fun fights that was really really close

[turnedup]

I bring that fight up because it one of the more famous fight where fans are split down the middle,my dad was a hagler fan and he told me about this fight,i was like 10 yrs old and had just began to train in boxing,anyways we watched the fight and he felt hagler won it,and i felt leonard won it...five years later we watched jt again and same thing,its just one of those fun fights that was really really close

Dude my father and grandfather didn't speak for nearly a year after that fight lol...I know how intense that debate is.

[IMDAZED]

They don't know how many because Showtime has never released the official number--ever. That fact was reported two days ago on this very website when talking about the Pacquaio v. Rios ppv numbers. I know of no other PPV boxing event where an official buy rate hasn't been released. Showtime has already released official numbers for Mayweather Canelo but not Mayweather Guerrero? How is that possible? It is possible because Showtime doesn't want the numbers to be released because they will confirm a loss. In fact, as of the Canelo fight, Showtime was still claiming the numbers "weren't ready." Then it proceeded to release the Canelo numbers within a matter of weeks--but never released the official Guerrero numbers.

It was widely known in the industry that Mayweather Guerrero needed 1.1 to 1.2 million sales for Showtime to break even. Even if the sales number was 1 million (which Showtime, unofficially, said), Showtime lost money. Please find me any source that tracks PPV numbers that gives an official number above 1 million. I have never seen it.

Showtime's refusal to release official numbers should tell you all you need to know about whether that fight was a financial success. Similarly, if Bob Arum refuses to release the official Pacquaio Rios numbers, it'll tell you all you need to know about that fight's financial prospects. But to claim Mayweather Guerrero didn't lose money based solely upon Showtimes unofficial statement that it had a million buys is crazy especially in light of the unprecedented refusal of Showtime to release the official buy rate.

When you say "official" what do you mean? Showtime said it did $1m buys, no?

[Rome-By-Ko]

So what you are saying is that in what could arguably be a round that's a draw the challenger should get the nod over the champion? Keep in mind there is no 10/10 rounds these days..

That's a tough one to answer tbh,a judge can't have the thinking that your suggesting..I'm sure a lot of them do tho..If I can be honest,I find this a hard one to answer..I'll go with you way tho..I'd score a even rd to the champion..

[turnedup]

That's a tough one to answer tbh,a judge can't have the thinking that your suggesting..I'm sure a lot of them do tho..If I can be honest,I find this a hard one to answer..I'll go with you way tho..I'd score a even rd to the champion..

One of the old dudes on HBO made a great point recently "We need to bring back 10/10 rounds" and I couldn't agree more.

[LouIE G]

When you say "official" what do you mean? Showtime said it did $1m buys, no?

Dan rafael from espn said it did about 870,000 ppv buys idk whos telling fact or fiction

[Mr. Ryan]

Financially, it's probably the best fight that can be made for Bradley, outside of an improbable Mayweather fight. Marquez is the easier bout though, for the simple reason that Marquez cannot deal with a boxer.

I just think that Bradley should avoid a rematch with Ruslan Provodnikov at all costs. There is no need to be taking that kind of risk a second time.

[IMDAZED]

Dan rafael from espn said it did about 870,000 ppv buys idk whos telling fact or fiction

IDK either. I do know that the money they made in the Canelo fight probably covers Floyd's next fight.

[Augustane]

Respect to Diaz. I like his attitude.

[bojangles1987]

Leonard or hagler??

**** Ray Leonard, and his pitty pat punches.