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breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
With all do respect my friend, I simply don't buy this train of thought. If we go by this Ali should have never fought Ron Lyle or Joe Frazier in 1975 because they had lost to other top contenders. This whole boxing tag team thing is a bit ridiculous. If we go by this reasoning it's ok Wlad never rematched Sanders or Vits never rematched Byrd because the other brother beat them.
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Originally posted by ShamrockXpress View PostI agree with you about the era being weak. People are just content to beat up on cans and wait for a payday. It's hampering the development of these fighters. I renember being quietly optimistic about Denis Boytsov early in his career, I envisioned a chagaev/ibragimov but with more pop. But he spent too much time fighting D level fighters that when he finally stepped up to a D+/C- fighter he lost.
Who do you want to see Wlad fight? The Mormeck/Pianeta/Wach fights were hard to defend as is the Leapai fight, but he doesn't really avoid top contenders (ibragimov, chagaev, Haye, povetkin). If he keeps up his activity fighting 3/4 times a year, the contenders (Pulev, Stiverne, Arreola, Fury, Jennings, Wilder?) should be doing the same and trying to force the fight.
These are the guys I think he should fight. Unfortunately ABC orgs keep getting in the way.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postali didn't have to fight norton or frazier 3 times. he could have said my brother george already beat you guys sorry! now watch me fight some guy named pinata!
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
These are the guys I think he should fight. Unfortunately ABC orgs keep getting in the way.
I thought Helenius would be a throwback after fighting Brewster, liakovich and peter so early in his career, but I think he's lost his confidence since Chisora spanked him. Now he's scared of losing like the rest of them and is just waiting for a payday.
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Originally posted by Jloro View PostThis era in a nutshell lol
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Originally posted by GhostBlade View PostThis is ridiculous! Bowe or Tyson or any other heavyweight contender and champion would crack Wlad to next year had he tried doing that to them. Ridiculous to think Povetkin is considered one of the best heavyweights today in boxing.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyes we do. wlad fought all the boxer types like haye, chambers, and thompson while vitali fought all the aggressive types like arreola, chisora, and peter rematch.even floyd is like damn that's some good cherry picking boys!
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
With all do respect my friend, I simply don't buy this train of thought. If we go by this Ali should have never fought Ron Lyle or Joe Frazier in 1975 because they had lost to other top contenders. This whole boxing tag team thing is a bit ridiculous. If we go by this reasoning it's ok Wlad never rematched Sanders or Vits never rematched Byrd because the other brother beat them.
i don't think you're getting what i am saying, going on the bold. one brother does not get credit for the wins of the other. we still ahve to recognize that their brotherhood will effect their matchmaking.
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Originally posted by New England View Posti don't think you're getting what i am saying, going on the bold. one brother does not get credit for the wins of the other. we still ahve to recognize that their brotherhood will effect their matchmaking.
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