breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

[Daddy T]

everybody bar klit lickers knows this is a weak era for the heavyweights.

[JAB5239]

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They choose not to is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard you say.. they didn't choose to be brother's so yes what one poster said.. sometimes they are put together because both have gotten in each other's ways in terms of faced opposition.. number of ranked top 10's.. belts won & so forth.. all because of the fact they can't fight each other & get rid of the other..

Brothers have fought before in boxing, there is nothing stopping them if they so desired to. So yes, they CHOOSE to not fight one another.

also this will have given them that one alltime great W everyone on here claims they don't have through no fault of there own & ofcourse a severe cut that halted that from occurring.

Yet they won't do it. Tsk, tsk, tsk. And what caused that severe punch? Answer: More effective punching.

Both brother's have gotten in the way of each other's legacies & more so Wlad of Vitali as Vitali is clearly the superior brother but has allowed his brother to collect more belts because that's what big brother's do. Haye's beef all along was with the younger brother as that's who Haye stepped to & Vitali could've been selfish & said I'm going to shut his trap but he eventually allowed Wlad to humble him.

So Vitaly, as a top contender could not fight other top contenders because Wlad already beat them? If thats the case why would any other contender fight someone already beaten? This is a ridiculous train of thought you have going.

[KBRO]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;14011922]

Brothers have fought before in boxing, there is nothing stopping them if they so desired to. So yes, they CHOOSE to not fight one another.
Yeah.. flyweights who couldn't hurt a fly.... Not 240 lb giants with big right hands... I can't believe I'm even answering this one.


Yet they won't do it. Tsk, tsk, tsk. And what caused that severe punch? Answer: More effective punching.

Like I told you before.. the more effective the punch the more it leads to having your career ended. Cuts are temporary.. retirement is permanent if your last name ends in Lewis.


So Vitaly, as a top contender could not fight other top contenders because Wlad already beat them? If thats the case why would any other contender fight someone already beaten? This is a ridiculous train of thought you have going.

Look how easily he beat all of Wlad;s leftovers.. fans don't want to see the same opponent being beatdown twice by a Klitschko.. Mostly I'm talking about the championship belts. Vitali has let Wlad shine & get the majority of the belts so Wlad's resume might be a little more significant.. doesn't mean he's the superior fighter & that's where you fail to grasp. A fighter's worth should alwaysbe first & foremost be determined by how dominant he was & his achievements.. opposition is secondary when you've been a three-time belt holder & haven't lost in more than a decade & really haven't truly been bettered in the ring.

[JAB5239]

More proof

More proof todays era is weak because of the best not fighting the best. Using The Rings annual rankings again I've discovered Primo Carnera, one of histories most ridiculed heavyweights, fought MORE top 10 contenders than either Wlad or Vits. He's fought 12 to wlads 10 and Vits 6. They were Stribling 2x, Godfrey, Sharkey, Levinski 2x, Gains, Poreda, Loughran, Baer, Louis and Haynes.

[JAB5239]

Sonny Liston had fights against 10 top 10 ranked opponents going by The Rings annual rankings. He fought DeJohn, Valdes, Machen, Harris. Folley. Patterson, Patterson, Ali, Ali and Martin.

[JAB5239]

Floyd Patterson had fights against 16 top 10 ranked fighters. He fought Jackson, Moore, London, Johansson, Johansson, Johansson, Liston, Liston, Machen, Chuvalo, Ali, Quarry, Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena and Ali.

[JAB5239]

Rocky Marciano, 9 fights againsy top 10 fighters. Lastarza, Layne, Louis, Walcott, Walcott, Lastarza, Charles, Charles and Moore.

[DannYankee]

Rocky Marciano, 9 fights againsy top 10 fighters. Lastarza, Layne, Louis, Walcott, Walcott, Lastarza, Charles, Charles and Moore.

Dont you know nowadays we have imaginary best fighters, and nobody needs to face the best anymore as long as you got the right pedigree and promoter all that facing the best stuff is antiquated psh get with the times.

[JAB5239]

Dont you know nowadays we have imaginary best fighters, and nobody needs to face the best anymore as long as you got the right pedigree and promoter all that facing the best stuff is antiquated psh get with the times.

Its pretty sad, I know. All these so called sanctioning orgs and promoters have ruined a once glorious division. Its hard to blame the fighters though. If gullible fans are going to buy into 4 or 5 world champions per division than why not fight soft opposition and get that money. But those same fans shouldn't come crying when everyone doesn't rate their favorites as high as they do.

[JAB5239]

George Foreman had 11 fights against top 10 fighters. They were Chuvalo, Frazier, Norton, Ali, Lyle, Frazier, Young, Holyfield, Moorer and Briggs.