Comments Thread For: Arum: Who Gives a **** About Mayweather-Khan?

[Kagami Taiga]

Saw this is exactly what I'm talking about. If this guy was truly interested in reaching out and trying to get this fight done, would he do crap like this every time? Every damn time. Instead of shutting up and trying to a make somwthing happen he'd rather talk ****, tell u s why it can't happen and make it seem like he's the innocent party. And the sad part is other is a whole group of ppl who suck this **** up. No1 wants to extend the olive branch therefore e this fight isn't happening. The difference is I don't hear anyone from team mayweather, gbp and haymon talking about this fight. Its all team PAC, who is led by this man. But we will have these repeated fan wars etc when truth is netiehr side is interested in working with the other. Pacwuiao might want the fight for his bank account but I'm pretty sure he is the only one on his team that does.

[kej718]

Only PPV numbers I've ever seen released

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view#United_States


Evander Holyfield vs. George Foreman 1,400,000[10]
Ray Mercer vs. Tommy Morrison 200,000[11]
Mike Tyson vs. Donovan Ruddock II 1,250,000[12]
Evander Holyfield vs. Larry Holmes 730,000[13]
George Foreman vs. Tommy Morrison 600,000[14]
Mike Tyson vs. Peter McNeeley 1,550,000[10]
Rid**** Bowe vs. Evander Holyfield III 650,000[citation needed]
Frank Bruno vs. Mike Tyson II 1,370,000[10]
Bruce Seldon vs. Mike Tyson 1,150,000[10]
Mike Tyson vs. Evander Holyfield 1,590,000[10]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Pernell Whitaker 720,000[15]
Evander Holyfield vs. Mike Tyson II 1,990,000[10]
Mike Tyson vs. Francois Botha 750,000[16]
Evander Holyfield vs. Lennox Lewis 1,200,000[12]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Félix Trinidad 1,400,000[10]
Evander Holyfield vs. Lennox Lewis II 850,000[citation needed]
Mike Tyson vs. Andrew Golota 450,000[17]
Lennox Lewis vs. David Tua 420,000[18]
Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson 1,970,000[10]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Fernando Vargas 935,000[15]
Mike Tyson vs. Clifford Etienne 100,000[19]
John Ruiz vs. Roy Jones, Jr. 602,000[20]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Shane Mosley II 950,000[15]
Bernard Hopkins vs. Oscar De La Hoya 1,000,000[15]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Ricardo Mayorga 925,000[21]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather 2,520,000[10]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920,000[22]
Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 1,250,000[10]
Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao 850,000[citation needed]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Márquez 1,100,000[23]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto 1,200,000[23]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey 700,000[24]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1,400,000[10]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito 1,150,000[25]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley 1,300,000[26]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz 1,250,000[27]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III 1,450,000[28]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto 1,500,000[29]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Timothy Bradley 700,000[30]
Sergio Martínez vs. Julio César Chávez, Jr. 475,000[31]
Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Márquez IV 1,150,000[32]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Robert Guerrero 870,000[33]
Floyd Mayweather vs. Saúl Álvarez 2,200,000[12]

[hitking]

You got it. During that time when Bob Arum created the phony countdown clock for Mayweather to accept terms for a Pacquaio fight, Margarito stated publicly that Arum had already promised him he would be Pac's next opponent. Who was Pac's next opponent? Margarito!!!!

Arum's been doing the same thing since the Cotto fight. The only people who believare *******s. And honestly, many of them know its bull****. But just run with it to push their agenda.

[turnedup]

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Regardless of what the FCC may or may not get, only the PPV network involved gets the PPV numbers. They give them to the promoters, who determines whether the network can release them to the public. The only numbers that any journalist has released about Pacquaio's last six fights have come directly from Bob Arum, not the network and Bob Arum has a history of lying about the numbers.

In terms of numbers, Pacquaio hasn't sold 1 million PPVs since the Margarito fight, which incidentally was the last fight that Arum allowed Pac's PPV numbers to be released.

The guaranteed money is listed in the contracts that the promoter provides to the state athletic commission. The state athletic commission makes the salary figures available to the public/journalists. In foreign countries, the boxing commission is not obligated to release the salaries to the public. The only salary information for the Pacquiao/Rios fight came from Bob Arum, who has history of lying. In Pacquaio's last six fights, the guarantee listed on the contract given to the boxing commission ranged from $5.9 million to $6.5 million.. Arum can throw out any number he wants, but these are the numbers listed on the contracts.

I don't know what i'm talking about but you just said the fcc may or may not get them..so make up your mind. Let's see the federal body that oversees everything transmitting on air or the word of a promoter or fan? Hmmmm I will take the FCC numbers over your "facts".

The contracts are the contracts and the journalists report on those contracts as they are filed and they are officiated..nuff said. Money isn't something I give a flying fk about when it comes to boxing nor are ppv numbers for that matter but you folks act like it's the end all be all and innapropriately state a boxers hasn't done this or that without actual facts.

All I'm saying is as far as Floyd the problem is Arum I'm not speaking for any other GBP fighter or any other fighter period. Floyd does not want to do business with Arum so that makes Arum the problem if he's going to be negotiating for Pac. The reason Arum has no problem making fights with other promoters is because the fighters that fight for OTHER promoters are not in a position to pass on the money a fight with PAC brings them like Floyd can.

I like Floyd but that's a cop out in my book...you are facing the fighter not the promoter. I don't like certain rappers but they got money and I have beats for them...that's the real world.

[ShoulderRoll]

Both Zab Judah and Berto fought against GBP fighters before they signed with them.

Exactly right.

And Austin Trout isn't with GBP either but he has a fight with Lara this weekend. Jean Pascal and Tavoris Cloud weren't Golden Boy fighters yet they got bouts with B-Hop. There are plenty of other examples.

[PAC-BOY]

Right. Which is why everybody that has been following boxing since 08 and predict Arum's moves when it comes to Floyd-Pac. And as we speak, the contracts areeither have already been, or bery close to being finished for Pac to fight either Bradley or Provodnikov in Apr.

Who the hell wants to sit around and wait on Floyd to drop a pair of nuts out of his vagina?
Did you not hear Floyd say that Manny must drop out of his contract with TR or resign with TMT. Fight a few fights with TMT (get older) then MAYBE we can talk! WTF does that tell you????? Please id like to know?

[big_james10]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...est/?mobile=no

The point was that the numbers are public and it's no different from Showtime releasing ppv numbers. Cut the mythical creature bull**** and grow up.

You are obviously dumb as a brick because you choose to believe every piece of bullsh.t that comes from Bob Arum's mouth. You are so dumb that you probably still think Arum is working on that temporary stadium to stage a Mayweather/Pac fight. The numbers were given to reporters by Bob Arum, who has a long history of lying and who lies about everything. I haven't read a single story in which it stated that the $18 million number was listed in the Pacquiao/Rios contract. The reason is because journalists didn't have access to the contract since the fight was in China and had t take Arum's word for it. We don't know what the real numbers are and I don't believe anything Bob Arum says. That is my point.

[Pacquiao'd]

Pacquiao, Roach and Arum have always wanted the fight

All the ducking and dodging comes from Floyd's camp and his "fans"

Sure they did, that's why they walked away after getting every thing they asked for because they always wanted it

[TBOGGS78]

I don't know what i'm talking about but you just said the fcc may or may not get them..so make up your mind. Let's see the federal body that oversees everything transmitting on air or the word of a promoter or fan? Hmmmm I will take the FCC numbers over your "facts".

The contracts are the contracts and the journalists report on those contracts as they are filed and they are officiated..nuff said. Money isn't something I give a flying fk about when it comes to boxing nor are ppv numbers for that matter but you folks act like it's the end all be all and innapropriately state a boxers hasn't done this or that without actual facts.




I like Floyd but that's a cop out in my book...you are facing the fighter not the promoter. I don't like certain rappers but they got money and I have beats for them...that's the real world.

I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I'm in a position to not put money in my enemies pocket then why would I, now if I was an upcoming fighter then he'll yeah I'm taking the money.

[dc3383]

Said in the statement it's on grantland...google is your friend



You know this because you are a. arum? B. You are something more than the rest of us I.E. a fan? C. You forget this is business..money talks.




Please point out their opponents..i'll wait and the year of the bouts..

Ortiz vs Berto 2011, Judah vs Matthyse 2010, Lamont Peterson fought both Ortiz and Khan in 2010 & 2011 and he wasn't signed to Golden Boy. Adrien broner fought Demarco in 2012 who is a Gary Shaw fighter need i go on.