Floyd/Arum just don't want the fight to get made.

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  • letsgobrady
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    #31
    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
    He says, "I'm gonna talk to Bob, and try to get this thing going." (paraphrasing)

    "But Floyd has to want to fight me as well." "I can talk to Bob all I want, but if Floyd don't want it, what can you do?" Paraphrasing. If you had even an ounce of common sense, this is what he basically said.

    It's a recent interview. Should still be on the 1st page.
    bradley is the same dude that said floyd would beat pacquiao easy right?

    what about the interviews after the marquez win when bradley acknowledges that the fight won't happen because the promotional company he is with?

    what about when mikey garcia acknowledges that a fight with him and abner mares won't happen because of the promotional companies ?

    what about when donaire acknowledged that fights with him and certain golden boy fighters won't happen because of the promotional companies ?

    many of arums fighters know that certain fights won't happen because of the promotional companies and that has nothing to do with floyd

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      #32
      What's amazing is how you guys never want to blame PAC like he's the slow kid in the classroom

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      • hectari
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        #33
        Its all bull****

        Before Arum was trying to milk manny, especially when he made up the story tht pac was scared of needles.

        But now its Floyd, that Arum excuse is full of chit, everytime Floyd and Arum cross paths they huge and smile at each other, Floyd issuing Arum as a scapegoat because he knows his cult following will buy into it.

        Another thing, the reason Arum didn't want to make the fight before is because he won't MAKE much money if Floyd and Pac fight. So whats up with this Floyd doesn't want to put money into Arums pocket crap?

        You do realize that Arum makes way more money having Manny fight an inhouse fighter? Arum won't get half the money he gets now if he puts Pac in with Floyd. So don't buy into Floyds Bs Arum excuse.

        The puzzle says birds of a feather flock together and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, just listen and look at Floyd Sr he and floyd jr both got that shook cherry picking mentality with a bit of paranoia. Floyd knows Pacman movement is hard to time and he has a style that will give him trouble this is why Floyd doesn't want to fight a washed up shot to pieces pacman, because he doesn't want to risk it. If this was Floyd say before teh Oscar fight, he would have no choice but to Fight Pac, but now that he is in the driver seat, he can pick and choose the low risk opponents at the right time.

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          #34
          Originally posted by hectari
          Its all bull****

          Before Arum was trying to milk manny, especially when he made up the story tht pac was scared of needles.

          But now its Floyd, that Arum excuse is full of chit, everytime Floyd and Arum cross paths they huge and smile at each other, Floyd issuing Arum as a scapegoat because he knows his cult following will buy into it.

          Another thing, the reason Arum didn't want to make the fight before is because he won't MAKE much money if Floyd and Pac fight. So whats up with this Floyd doesn't want to put money into Arums pocket crap?

          You do realize that Arum makes way more money having Manny fight an inhouse fighter? Arum won't get half the money he gets now if he puts Pac in with Floyd. So don't buy into Floyds Bs Arum excuse.

          The puzzle says birds of a feather flock together and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, just listen and look at Floyd Sr he and floyd jr both got that shook cherry picking mentality with a bit of paranoia. Floyd knows Pacman movement is hard to time and he has a style that will give him trouble this is why Floyd doesn't want to fight a washed up shot to pieces pacman, because he doesn't want to risk it. If this was Floyd say before teh Oscar fight, he would have no choice but to Fight Pac, but now that he is in the driver seat, he can pick and choose the low risk opponents at the right time.
          How is manny going to fight Floyd if he's under contract with arum? And like you said, why would arum allow PAC to fight Floyd? So who is holding up the fight? Arum and juiceman are.

          What's your fanboy excuse for manny walking away in 09 when Floyd gave him EVERYTHING PAC asked for? Why was PAC the one who walked away if Floyd is the one who is scared?
          Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 12-03-2013, 08:14 PM.

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          • MPX309
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            #35
            God, not this again. . .

            If they fight they fight, if not then they don't. There's probably far more variables than we are aware of, but blaming one of them isn't fair. I haven't actually seen Manny at any point look particularly enthusiastic about fighting Floyd through-out his career, and he kinda just mopes about and fights who's put in front of him and acts like he has no say in what goes on, that's clearly evident with his recent financial crisis

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              #36
              Arum tried twice.
              HBO Ross Greenburg tried.
              Nelson Mandela tried.
              Singaporeans tried.
              Manny Pacquiao upon finishing his contract with Arum
              2 years ago sent Koncz to meet with Mayweather at his gym.
              Singaporeans tried again.
              Joe Jackson and business friends tried.
              (This was when uncle Roger quipped, "It's nuts to turn down $150 million.")

              50 cent tried.

              All failed to convince Floyd.

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                #37
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                Arum tried twice.
                HBO Ross Greenburg tried.
                Nelson Mandela tried.
                Singaporeans tried.
                Manny Pacquiao upon finishing his contract with Arum
                2 years ago sent Koncz to meet with Mayweather at his gym.
                Singaporeans tried again.
                Joe Jackson and business friends tried.
                (This was when uncle Roger quipped, "It's nuts to turn down $150 million.")

                50 cent tried.

                All failed to convince Floyd.

                Yet manny walked away in. 09 to fight clottey after getting everything he asked for

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ptw1
                  Quote:

                  Originally Posted by I don't lose

                  How does someone owe you money when you pay them $750,000 to get out of your contract?




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                  Its called contract law. FM still had to pay the $750k to get out of his court. Any dispute regarding what BA may have owed him is separate and can be contested. FM just couldn't deduct what he thought he was owed and pay that. For example, if you have a dispute with your mortgage company or landlord, try to deduct it from you payment and see what happens.
                  why would a mortgage company or landlord owe me?


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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pacquiao'd
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                    Originally Posted by JoeMan

                    Arum tried twice.
                    HBO Ross Greenburg tried.
                    Nelson Mandela tried.
                    Singaporeans tried.
                    Manny Pacquiao upon finishing his contract with Arum
                    2 years ago sent Koncz to meet with Mayweather at his gym.
                    Singaporeans tried again.
                    Joe Jackson and business friends tried.
                    (This was when uncle Roger quipped, "It's nuts to turn down $150 million.")

                    50 cent tried.

                    All failed to convince Floyd.

                    Yet manny walked away in. 09 to fight clottey after getting everything he asked for
                    Manny got 3 tests, one before the fight and after?


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                    • Heru
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                      #40
                      Simple economics...

                      Pacquiao has averaged approx. 1.1M PPV buys in exclusive Top Rank promotions (meaning 100% of the revenue goes through Top Rank regardless of the payout)...

                      Why would Arum want to put Pacquiao in a fight where he'd have to split an estimated 2.5-3M PPV buys 50-50 w/ Mayweather/GBP (that split being at best because Mayweather can realistically demand 60-40 or 55-45 at this point)?

                      Arum does not and has never wanted it as long as Pacquiao has been selling PPV's in the millions; Arum is a smart businessman and Pacquiao-Mayweather is not a smart business move for him. All of that while Pacquiao's the betting favorite in every fight, which he wouldn't be against Mayweather (then have to rebuild his reputation or have him retire and lose out on a cash cow).

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