Do you know who the REAL Lineal Middleweight Champion is? I will tell you.

[Da Boxer]

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Originally Posted by ShoulderRoll

Damn, did Camacho really have that many fights at middleweight?

He sure did.

11 epic title defenses of his Middleweight Lineage.

Surely an ATG Middlweight? I mean, ELEVEN defences of the Lineage?

Only rivalled by Carlos Monzon who defended it 14 times.

ATG stuff.

I must say that as a fan I was not aware of it and much more, as a Puertorican I did not know. I was not a Macho fan just because of the "show". Im 45 years old, I should have known better.

My hat is off to Macho Camacho a true champ!


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[IronDanHamza]

I must say that as a fan I was not aware of it and much more, as a Puertorican I did not know. I was not a Macho fan just because of the "show". Im 45 years old, I should have known better.

My hat is off to Macho Camacho a true champ!


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Macho one of the ATG Lineals.

He's up there with Wards current reign at 175.

Wards reign is so spectacular he's never even had a fight at 175 and he's the Lineal Champ.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

epic stuff IronDan

[wiz1030]

Macho one of the ATG Lineals.

He's up there with Wards current reign at 175.

Wards reign is so spectacular he's never even had a fight at 175 and he's the Lineal Champ.

Hold up, excuse my ignorance but you can lose the lineal title in a fight out of your wait class?


Or are you just trolling...

[Dinamita 03]

Did you guys know that the actual Lineal Champion at Middleweight at the moment is Darren Barker?

When Lineal Champion Ray Leonard returned from his 6 year retirement in 1997 and a whole 10 years since he won his Lineage in 1987, he defended his MW Lineage against Hector Camacho.

Leonard was of course still the Lineal Champion in 1997, which is definitely a fact. After all, uttering the magic words of "retirement" doesn't mean anything, does it? You can only lose your Lineage in the ring, right?

So, the new Lineal MW Champion Camacho kept his MW Lineage all the way up until 2003 defending it 11 times! Almost breaking Monzon's record, just three away, until he finally lost it to the great Chris Walsh.

Chris Walsh then lost it in his next fight to Dirk Dzemski.

Who then lost it to Sebastian Sylvester in his next fight.

Who then lost it to Amin Asikainen in 2006 to then win it back of him in 2007 in an epic European Title/Lineal Title Unification fight!!! European Title AND Lineage on the line at the same time!

Slvester than valiantly held on to his Lineage until 2008 losing to Felix Sturm.

And then, after long last Felix Sturm lost his Lineage to Daniel Geale.

Then, in 2013, Barker defied the odds and won the LINEAL MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE OF THE WORLD!!!

Strums epic chance at Lineage redemption is next week. December 7th on a card billed as "Battle of the Lineage"

The epic rematch awaits just next week for the Middleweight Lineage!!

Fun facts learnt from this thread;

Bernard Hopkins held every belt at Middleweight but was never Lineal Champion.

Sebastian Slyvester, 2 time Lineal Champ at MW.

This is some how even more ******ed than saying Ward is currently the Lineal LHW Champion. You didn't think that was possible, did you?

Great stuff bro, blew my mind.

[IronDanHamza]

Hold up, excuse my ignorance but you can lose the lineal title in a fight out of your wait class?


Or are you just trolling...

Great question.

"Can you lose your Lineal Title in a fight outside your weight class"

Simple answer - YES!

Andre Ward won his Lineage at 175 whilst defending his Title at 168, weighing 168 in a fight at 168!

That's what you call greatness. History making stuff.

[Nay_Sayer]

Hold up, excuse my ignorance but you can lose the lineal title in a fight out of your wait class?


Or are you just trolling...

Technically speaking, Ward Dawson was not "out" of the 175lb weight class...

[BattlingNelson]

Did you guys know that the actual Lineal Champion at Middleweight at the moment is Darren Barker?

When Lineal Champion Ray Leonard returned from his 6 year retirement in 1997 and a whole 10 years since he won his Lineage in 1987, he defended his MW Lineage against Hector Camacho.

Leonard was of course still the Lineal Champion in 1997, which is definitely a fact. After all, uttering the magic words of "retirement" doesn't mean anything, does it? You can only lose your Lineage in the ring, right?

So, the new Lineal MW Champion Camacho kept his MW Lineage all the way up until 2003 defending it 11 times! Almost breaking Monzon's record, just three away, until he finally lost it to the great Chris Walsh.

Chris Walsh then lost it in his next fight to Dirk Dzemski.

Who then lost it to Sebastian Sylvester in his next fight.

Who then lost it to Amin Asikainen in 2006 to then win it back of him in 2007 in an epic European Title/Lineal Title Unification fight!!! European Title AND Lineage on the line at the same time!

Slvester than valiantly held on to his Lineage until 2008 losing to Felix Sturm.

And then, after long last Felix Sturm lost his Lineage to Daniel Geale.

Then, in 2013, Barker defied the odds and won the LINEAL MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE OF THE WORLD!!!

Strums epic chance at Lineage redemption is next week. December 7th on a card billed as "Battle of the Lineage"

The epic rematch awaits just next week for the Middleweight Lineage!!

Fun facts learnt from this thread;

Bernard Hopkins held every belt at Middleweight but was never Lineal Champion.

Sebastian Slyvester, 2 time Lineal Champ at MW.

This is some how even more ******ed than saying Ward is currently the Lineal LHW Champion. You didn't think that was possible, did you?

Pretty good!

What about LHW?

Well Zsolt Erdei was a long time lineal champion. He won the title in 2004 from Gonzalez. He made 11 straight defenses before having a few fights over the limit. He finally lost his lineage in march this year against Dennis Grachev. Grachev then lost it to Edwin Rodríguez.

Rodríguez then lost to Ward at 168 lbs. I guess that 168 lbs could still be for LHW lineage since 168 is below 175 lbs.

So Ward is LHW lineal champion by way of beating Rodríguez.

[Bushbaby]

Dazzling Darren is gonna go on a win streak here.

[New England]

meh.

dazzling barker's a good looking chap, but he's no sergio. even at 900 years old, sergio still pulls tail at those spanish beaches.