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    #11
    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
    His punches looked forced and laboring compared to the past.

    His foot movement, head movement, agility, and pace for 12 rounds looks NOTHING like past Pacquiao.
    Its easy to criticize without actually re watching the fights I'm comparing but it just shows that expectation of Pacquiao abilities, speed, power Post Marquez II - Pre Marquez III was clearly over hyped. However I agree stamina is not the same.

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    • thebowtod
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      #12
      I dont see much a difference between when he fought rios



      and when fought cotto, only difference is cotto landed more on pacquiao and cottos chin is worse than rios.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
        I dont see much a difference between when he fought rios



        and when fought cotto, only difference is cotto landed more on pacquiao and cottos chin is worse than rios.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggV9GIM6f2U
        there's a huge difference in Pac's stamina and killer instinct. He was relentless against Cotto and was still trying to go for the KO in the later rounds. Against Rios, Pac just carried him.

        Pac also seamlessly moved from offense to defense against Cotto. Against Rios, it was either all offense, or all defense.

        Also, Pac's footwork looks worse... that could probably be the effect of him losing his stamina... without the stamina, he doesn't have the energy to execute his movements and he is taking short cuts with his movement.

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          #14
          Dude STFU, stop scaring the CatchWeight King CatchWeather away. We're very close to getting a fight between the two, if CatchWeather health still come first I'm going to blame it on you this time .

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            #15
            Originally posted by KickAzz
            there's a huge difference in Pac's stamina and killer instinct. He was relentless against Cotto and was still trying to go for the KO in the later rounds. Against Rios, Pac just carried him.

            Pac also seamlessly moved from offense to defense against Cotto. Against Rios, it was either all offense, or all defense.

            Also, Pac's footwork looks worse... that could probably be the effect of him losing his stamina... without the stamina, he doesn't have the energy to execute his movements and he is taking short cuts with his movement.
            By Killer instinct, do you mean going Toe2Toe? because that's nothing to do with physical declining.

            Offense to Defense got him KO'ed by counter punch timing. Forgive him to want to box more smarter.

            Footwork looks worse, we would only be able to tell if he fights cotto again, im sure against Cotto he use his footwork alot more than rios. Stamina is a issue but thats an issue for every1.

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              #16
              The only thing i have seen in pac, is that he is slightly less explosive.. He still has everything else: speed, footwork, etc... He just isnt as explosive as he has been from 2000-10.. I think he has slowed down alittle compared to the manny that fought at the lower weights. The good thing for manny is that he has really learned how to box off the back foot, so as his fights may not be as exciting, he will be able to prolong his career if he continues to box, and not be the destroyer we have seen in the past

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                #17
                Originally posted by KickAzz
                there's a huge difference in Pac's stamina and killer instinct. He was relentless against Cotto and was still trying to go for the KO in the later rounds. Against Rios, Pac just carried him.

                Pac also seamlessly moved from offense to defense against Cotto. Against Rios, it was either all offense, or all defense.

                Also, Pac's footwork looks worse... that could probably be the effect of him losing his stamina... without the stamina, he doesn't have the energy to execute his movements and he is taking short cuts with his movement.
                you didn't watch that fight at all if you think manny went for the kill in the late rounds

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                  #18
                  Why is it in these two fight Marquez II 2008 - Marquez III 2011 Manny look the same, But between these fight Manny looked like he had godlike speed power and ability.
                  Styles Makes Fights

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