I disagre that 11/12 Manny lost his step...

[AboutBillions]

I've been reading from threads that's its NSB's opinion that Manny Pacquiao is no longer the same as 09/10 season compared to 10/11/12 seasons.

I disagree with this because I'm a strong believer in Styles Make Fights, and 10/11/12 was a very active years for Pacquiao, its not like he took breaks.

So lets look at the record:

Ricky Hatton - 2009-05-02 : Miguel Cotto - 2009-11-14

Joshua Clottey - 2010-03-13 : Antonio Margarito - 2010-11-13

Shane Mosley - 2011-05-07 : Juan Manuel Márquez 2011-11-12

Timothy Bradley 2012-06-09. - A lot of Activity.

Ultimately I believe its disrespectful to Pacquiao opponents with all individual styles, chins and ability's being disregarded as if they are unable to give Pacquiao a tough fight. Pacquiao can't always look that much impressive as much as the "2009 HYPE" supposes so, "Styles Makes Fights".

Firstly lets state that its fan opinion that Pacquiao was at his best at the Cotto fight, which after that I read a lot "He started Declining".
I disagree with this opinion because Clottey was a tough guy that's never been KO'ed before. We all know 2010 Margarito and Mosley was tough as nails too, give them their respect.

Furthermore others say the Márquez III was the time Pacquiao faded, which is funny who fades in less than 6 months after impressive fight with Mosely?
Could we believe that Pacquiao has beaten so many big names but a lightweight called Marquez has been his toughest fight each time, and Just after Mayweather dominated him.

Easy answer is to say Pacquiao has lost his step and he's not the same because it hurts his "HYPE", But truth is credit to Márquez's style, chin and ability.

Finally not going to go into Bradley fight because it clear that styles made the outcome of this fight win, loose, or draw it was close.

In addition I personally believe Pacquiao till today still posses the speed, power and technically ability he's had since 09 and maybe gained some due to experience, but the "09/10 Hype" was so extreme along with the hate of Mayweather that when Pacquiao don't deliver a KO or a KD we start saying hes declining and we forget that styles makes fights.

Fight with Rios we see post KO mentally he might be shy to go toe2toe but his speed, ability and power looked impressive as 2010 considering Rios, Clottey Margs couldn't handle his speed also.

[ElMeroChingon]

I've been reading from threads that's its NSB's opinion that Manny Pacquiao is no longer the same as 09/10 season compared to 10/11/12 seasons.

I disagree with this because I'm a strong believer in Styles Make Fights, and 10/11/12 was a very active years for Pacquiao, its not like he took breaks.

So lets look at the record:

Ricky Hatton - 2009-05-02 : Miguel Cotto - 2009-11-14

Joshua Clottey - 2010-03-13 : Antonio Margarito - 2010-11-13

Shane Mosley - 2011-05-07 : Juan Manuel Márquez 2011-11-12

Timothy Bradley 2012-06-09. - A lot of Activity.

Ultimately I believe its disrespectful to Pacquiao opponents with all individual styles, chins and ability's being disregarded as if they are unable to give Pacquiao a tough fight. Pacquiao can't always look that much impressive as much as the "2009 HYPE" supposes so, "Styles Makes Fights".

Firstly lets state that its fan opinion that Pacquiao was at his best at the Cotto fight, which after that I read a lot "He started Declining".
I disagree with this opinion because Clottey was a tough guy that's never been KO'ed before. We all know 2010 Margarito and Mosley was tough as nails too, give them their respect.

Furthermore others say the Márquez III was the time Pacquiao faded, which is funny who fades in less than 6 months after impressive fight with Mosely?
Could we believe that Pacquiao has beaten so many big names but a lightweight called Marquez has been his toughest fight each time, and Just after Mayweather dominated him.

Easy answer is to say Pacquiao has lost his step and he's not the same because it hurts his "HYPE", But truth is credit to Márquez's style, chin and ability.

Finally not going to go into Bradley fight because it clear that styles made the outcome of this fight win, loose, or draw it was close.

In addition I personally believe Pacquiao till today still posses the speed, power and technically ability he's had since 09 and maybe gained some due to experience, but the "09/10 Hype" was so extreme along with the hate of Mayweather that when Pacquiao don't deliver a KO or a KD we start saying hes declining and we forget that styles makes fights.

Fight with Rios we see post KO mentally he might be shy to go toe2toe but his speed, ability and power looked impressive as 2010 considering Rios, Clottey Margs couldn't handle his speed also.

Pacquiao ran for the whole fight, so it's hard to see how well he would do against someone of a higher skill level, someone who will have good defense and FORCE Pacquiao to fight.

[SlySlickSmooth]

He used the same gameplan he did vs ODLH and Maragarito. If you're gonna be flat footed like Rios, DLH, and Margs were.. he's gonna box circles around you because he KNOWS they could land a fight changing punch.

Not to mention Rios was 156-158 pounds in the ring and Margarito was a middleweight in the ring.

ODLH I felt was a showcase fight, despite Oscar cherrypicking and failing to have his weight made correctly.

[BUNGALOWS]

I use the Pacquiao that fought ODHLYA as a template.

He's been nowhere close to that level in years. That was physically and mentally Pac's prime.

[AboutBillions]

Pacquiao ran for the whole fight, so it's hard to see how well he would do against someone of a higher skill level, someone who will have good defense and FORCE Pacquiao to fight.

Comparing Rios fight with Clottey, Manny speed, power and ability looked great, regardless if he forced to fight.

[BUNGALOWS]

Comparing Rios fight with Clottey, Manny speed, power and ability looked great, regardless if he forced to fight.

His punches looked forced and laboring compared to the past.

His foot movement, head movement, agility, and pace for 12 rounds looks NOTHING like past Pacquiao.

[AboutBillions]

I use the Pacquiao that fought ODHLYA as a template.

He's been nowhere close to that level in years. That was physically and mentally Pac's prime.

What template? ODHLYA couldnt handle his speed, Styles makes fights mate. In that same year 2008 Marquez gave him a hell of a fight.

[BUNGALOWS]

What template? Styles makes fights mate. In that same year 2008 Marquez gave him a hell of a fight.

I'm talking about overall body coordination, sharpness on his punches, and demeanor in the ring.

He doesn't have the same vitality in the ring.

[AboutBillions]

I'm talking about overall body coordination, sharpness on his punches, and demeanor in the ring.

He doesn't have the same vitality in the ring.

if you want a template use Marquez II in 2008, Oscar couldnt handle Manny's speed.
Body coordination meaning footwork, its evident in Marquez II his body coordination was exploited, Sharpness of his punches is still here today, and his demeanor was taken from him from Marquez IV.
Manny never thought he can get knocked out like he did, but now he knows he can, he might actually become a better fighter with the skills he's possesses.

[KickAzz]

I'm talking about overall body coordination, sharpness on his punches, and demeanor in the ring.

He doesn't have the same vitality in the ring.

yep, either his body just isn't responding to his brain, or his brain is distracted and he isn't spending enough time on his craft.