If Pac beats bradley, would you rank him 1,2, or 3 p4p?

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #71
    Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
    I wasn't serious with the heavyweight part, i was saying if pacman gets better wins than floyd and ward, beats them in a more dominate fashion then floyd did with his opponent, why should floyd stay number 1? so if floyd beats guys like khan, wins 8-4, and pacman beats someone like bradley and knocks him out or wins by shut out, how does floyd deserve that spot? So by your argument, sergio is the best middle weight, because technically he hasn't "lost". But do you really believe sergio is the best middleweight, or is it golovkin?
    Just see the top P4P list and it will answer the question about Martinez.

    To answer the first part, if Floyd is in a tough fight but still wins, he will not lose his spot. Pac is my boy and I think it was a lucky shot, but he did get knocked down and then knocked out cold on his second to last fight. There is nobody out there aside from Floyd who he could feasably fight and beat at this stage that would elevate him to the top spot. Period.

    Sorry, but that's the truth.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      Sorry Pac.tards but an argument can be made that Marquez, even after the Bradely loss and Pacquiao's win over Rios, should be rated higher P4P than Pacquiaio...
      I don't agree with this, Bradley beat Marquez almost as handily as Pacquiao beat Bradley. Pac is #3 if he beats Bradley, who is #3. No doubt about it.

      Those claims that he could be #1 or #2 are ridiculous to say the least and I'm a Pac fan over Floyd and Ward.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Money Team.
        1-Floyd
        2-Ward
        3-Bradley
        4-Martinez
        5-Wlad
        6-Jmm
        7-Garcia
        8-Rigo
        9-Froch
        10-Mikey Garcia

        pretty damn easy..all are fighting people at or above their weight class and havent lost recently
        Your top ten is flawed. Pac only lost by a lucky KO shot in a fight he was winning and everyone with any sense knows he beat Bradley.

        Having Froch in the top ten after his last fight shows that you have no real boxing knowledge.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          I don't agree with this, Bradley beat Marquez almost as handily as Pacquiao beat Bradley. Pac is #3 if he beats Bradley, who is #3. No doubt about it.

          Those claims that he could be #1 or #2 are ridiculous to say the least and I'm a Pac fan over Floyd and Ward.
          Pacquiao did not beat Bradley. You Pac.tards need to let go of that pipe dream.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Pacquiao did not beat Bradley. You Pac.tards need to let go of that pipe dream.
            and canelo deserved a draw vs floyd,,,


            Did you honestly score the fight for bradley,,, I give bradley tons of love on these threads, but no way did he win that fight

            Sometimes you have to use critical thinking skills, which is sorely lacking on NSB

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              #76
              My top five right now looks like:
              1. Mayweather 2. Ward 3. Bradley 4. Rgio 5. Marquez

              If Manny beats Bradley in the rematch that puts him at least #3 in my book. I think there's an argument to be made that his long-term record outweighs Ward's significant accomplishments but I would have to give the talent and longevity edge to Ward. TBH I might be tempted to give Manny a #2 ranking out of sentimentality, especially if he looked like a beast against Bradley.

              I think most of us had Manny winning the first fight but it wasn't a domination, it was still a close fight (owing a lot to Manny taking huge portions of rounds off). A clear win over Bradley would mean a lot more than a muddled consensus "win."

              I'm pulling for Desert Storm in the rematch, here's hoping it gets made so we can settle the controversy for good!

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                #77
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                and canelo deserved a draw vs floyd,,,


                Did you honestly score the fight for bradley,,, I give bradley tons of love on these threads, but no way did he win that fight

                Sometimes you have to use critical thinking skills, which is sorely lacking on NSB
                What someone deserves isn't the same as what happened. Whether or not Canelo deserved to get a draw scorecard against Mayweather, the fact is that he did. If another judge had given him the draw, he would have officially tied with Mayweather and blemished Floyd's record.

                Manny didn't deserve to lose to Bradley but he still lost. The decision wasn't overturned. You may not like what happened but the fact is that it happened.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
                  What someone deserves isn't the same as what happened. Whether or not Canelo deserved to get a draw scorecard against Mayweather, the fact is that he did. If another judge had given him the draw, he would have officially tied with Mayweather and blemished Floyd's record.

                  Manny didn't deserve to lose to Bradley but he still lost. The decision wasn't overturned. You may not like what happened but the fact is that it happened.
                  true, it happened,, but that wont change my p4p rankings,, Im not going to penalize a guy for getting screwed in an obvious robbery, same way if floyd had somehow got a draw with canelo,, floyd would still be my #1 and canelo off my list

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                    Pacquiao did not beat Bradley. You Pac.tards need to let go of that pipe dream.
                    Yea he did and it will be remembered as such by anyone who knows anything about boxing you twit.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      true, it happened,, but that wont change my p4p rankings,, Im not going to penalize a guy for getting screwed in an obvious robbery, same way if floyd had somehow got a draw with canelo,, floyd would still be my #1 and canelo off my list
                      This ^^^

                      If this was the case, Ward would have surpassed Floyd as #1 P4P when Floyd only managed a SD against Canelo.

                      It's a farce and everybody knows it.

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