I wasn't serious with the heavyweight part, i was saying if pacman gets better wins than floyd and ward, beats them in a more dominate fashion then floyd did with his opponent, why should floyd stay number 1? so if floyd beats guys like khan, wins 8-4, and pacman beats someone like bradley and knocks him out or wins by shut out, how does floyd deserve that spot? So by your argument, sergio is the best middle weight, because technically he hasn't "lost". But do you really believe sergio is the best middleweight, or is it golovkin?
If Pac beats bradley, would you rank him 1,2, or 3 p4p?
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i get what your saying, but its hard to pick fighters that would actually beat manny H2H
at best case scenario after beating bradley he would be #3, worst case he would be #5 behind floyd, ward, rigo, jmmComment
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No it is not...ive seen 5 fighters beat him h2h and he just won his 1st fight since 2011...lets stick to reality now....Dude is a great fighter and has had a great career but he hasn't been impressive for years and hasnt even faced a top ww since 2009...if you wanna call him p4p hold him to the same standards the rest get held at...Comment
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Then ya'll say he already beat Bradley..ok if you dont respect Bradleys win over Manny that means he shouldnt even be top 5 p4p to begin with so how does a win over him make Manny top 3? i am confused here...Comment
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on p4p lists,,
1 and 2 are floyd and ward
3. probably rigo, but he doesnt have a huge track record, outside of the donaire win, a solid win over agebako will go along way in proving he is one of the elites and not a one-trick pony
4,5,6- are a toss up between bradley, jmm, manny, its a crazy triangle since jmm beats manny, bradley beats jmm, manny beats bradley, and their is no clear superior fighter between the 3, so any order between those guys is purely opinion and you can make a case for any of them..
from spot 7 down, you have a bunch of good fighters like garcia, froch, wlad, gonzalez etc but none would be favored over manny H2H at the moment..
I really think its all a matter of preference at this point, when it comes to the bradley-jmm-manny rankingsComment
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so wlad and Froch wouldnt be favored over Manny head to head??? and Juan already proved to be favored over Manny head to head by brutal ko..Manny would be not huge favorite over anyone on the p4p top 10 liston p4p lists,,
1 and 2 are floyd and ward
3. probably rigo, but he doesnt have a huge track record, outside of the donaire win, a solid win over agebako will go along way in proving he is one of the elites and not a one-trick pony
4,5,6- are a toss up between bradley, jmm, manny, its a crazy triangle since jmm beats manny, bradley beats jmm, manny beats bradley, and their is no clear superior fighter between the 3, so any order between those guys is purely opinion and you can make a case for any of them..
from spot 7 down, you have a bunch of good fighters like garcia, froch, wlad, gonzalez etc but none would be favored over manny H2H at the moment..
I really think its all a matter of preference at this point, when it comes to the bradley-jmm-manny rankingsComment
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Thing is Manny fans have talked so much crap about Bradley and said he was a weak champion it is hard to take ya'll serious by now trying to say and win over him somehow makes manny top 2-3 againComment
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dude, you have to be kidding,, manny would shred wlad and froch if they were welters or jr welters,,,,
Manny would be the favorite over everyone on the planet except floyd, ward, jmm,,, thats it,,
He would be favored to beat anyone else including rigo and bradleyComment
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