Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Beating Rios Don't Get You a Floyd Fight!

[hitking]

who said he had to dump al haymon,, Im just saying that the fight can be made...
Yes your right about floyd probably not opting out of the richest contract in boxing, but he would make more money vs manny,, Thats why i said he should fight khan and garcia, get that huge guarantee, and then bolt with 2 fights left on it,, by that time there wont be anyone for him to fight, plus he would make more off a manny fight than any of his showtime fights so losing those 2 last fights wont matter when considering manny will replace one and be more lucrative, and a rematch or someone else could bring money by that time, no one knows who will be a hot contender for a sept 2015 fight



Who is losing their rationale, I made clear want needs to happen for the fight to be made.,,, Isnt floyd his own boss, he doesnt need GBP, and he is out of big time blockbuster opponents except for manny, so at some point he will have to reach a deal for the manny fight, and manny and arum will have to reach a deal with haymon and floyd.. Its as simple as that, floyd has all the power but his options are limited, especially considering he has no big names to fight.. no disrespect to khan, broner, garcia, but they do not bring the starpower of cotto, shane, canelo and probably never will... Manny is the last huge blockbuster floyd can make

Whether you realize it or not. You're basically putting the ball in Floyd's court to make the fight happen. You've said he should dump GBP. You said he should opt out of his deal with Showtime. That's irrational homie. His own boss or not, he's made a **** ton of money with GBP and has a ****ty relationship with Arum. He's in the middle of the most lucrative TV deal in boxing history. Why is he expected to flush that down the toilet? Basically what I'm saying is that whenever this subject comes up. People want Floyd to go above and beyond anything anything a fighter has had to do. And place all the blame on him. When Pac could just as easily break ranks with his business associates to make the fight easier to make. My point all day has been that if these guys wanted to fight badly enough, they could. But they don't. Keyword THEY.

[Deeznuts]

Of course it doesn't. Everybody knows beating Berto is the only thing that can guarantee you a Floyd fight

[hitking]

Manny is the fighter of the decade and despite the ko loss held in much higher regard than your chickenshiat son Fraud Sr, and cmon Manny ALREADY beat everyone there is to beat and took your sons #1 for YEARS ,Its he that has to step UP not Manny, oh and another thing If Manny beats the Klit brothers tomorrow your son and clan would fiind another one of your countless endless excuses NOT to fight Manny.Frankly the BETTER oppossition Manny Beats the least likley your CHICKENSIAT fraud ass son will fight Manny thats some truth right there.... Not my opinion its what Floyd is KNOWN for.

Here come the excuses!!!! The best compliment possible on Manny's performance is Sr ******** already making excuses for why Floyd (the Hemroid) will not fight Manny. Fact is Pacman looked better than Hemroid has ever looked. And guess what Pacman didn't fight an over the hill, or undersized, or dehydrated, opponent like Hemroid always does. Worst part for Hemroid is the legacy he thinks he's building will have an asterisk beside it noting that he never fought anybody in their prime and dodged everybody. Paper record cause he never took a chance like the all time greats.

LMAO!!!! The scary thing is people like this are allowed to reproduce.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Whether you realize it or not. You're basically putting the ball in Floyd's court to make the fight happen. You've said he should dump GBP. You said he should opt out of his deal with Showtime. That's irrational homie. His own boss or not, he's made a **** ton of money with GBP and has a ****ty relationship with Arum. He's in the middle of the most lucrative TV deal in boxing history. Why is he expected to flush that down the toilet? Basically what I'm saying is that whenever this subject comes up. People want Floyd to go above and beyond anything anything a fighter has had to do. And place all the blame on him. When Pac could just as easily break ranks with his business associates to make the fight easier to make. My point all day has been that if these guys wanted to fight badly enough, they could. But they don't. Keyword THEY.

If you read my posts, i said that floyd should fight khan and garcia next to milk that lucrative deal, and then opt out, and make more money with one manny fight in 2015 than his last 2 fights on showtime combined,, For real who is floyd gonna fight that brings anything to the table money wise,,, He is all out of options by 2015, so yes he could stay with showtime for his last 2 fights and have ppv bombs with maidana, soto karras, lucas, broner,, or he could make the biggest pile of money ever in his career by opting out in 205 and making the manny fight,...

I agree that it takes both sides to make the deal, and its not just floyd's responibilty but his and manny's and arum's.... GBP are lucky that floyd deals with them...
No one wants this fight over the last few years, because floyd and crew were afraid of losing that 0, and arum and crew werent trying to derail the manny cash cow train,, but now that both sides have exhausted all other possibilites, and the fight would still be a blockbuster, i see no reason not to get it done in may 2015...

april 2014 manny bradley 2
may 2014 floyd vs khan

sept 2014 floyd-garcia
nov 2014 manny-jmm 5

if both can keep winning

may 2015 floyd-manny in the most lucrative fight of all time

Thats how it should go down

[ssgtagostini]

Beating Rios doesn't get you a Floyd fight, but apparently beating Berto does.

[Respect Power]

Of course it doesn't. Everybody knows beating Berto is the only thing that can guarantee you a Floyd fight

Seems that way but every1 knows PAC beats Berto .It seems you have to be good enough to beat Berto but not be to good. That's how you get a Floyd fight

[hitking]

If you read my posts, i said that floyd should fight khan and garcia next to milk that lucrative deal, and then opt out, and make more money with one manny fight in 2015 than his last 2 fights on showtime combined,, For real who is floyd gonna fight that brings anything to the table money wise,,, He is all out of options by 2015, so yes he could stay with showtime for his last 2 fights and have ppv bombs with maidana, soto karras, lucas, broner,, or he could make the biggest pile of money ever in his career by opting out in 205 and making the manny fight,...

I agree that it takes both sides to make the deal, and its not just floyd's responibilty but his and manny's and arum's.... GBP are lucky that floyd deals with them...
No one wants this fight over the last few years, because floyd and crew were afraid of losing that 0, and arum and crew werent trying to derail the manny cash cow train,, but now that both sides have exhausted all other possibilites, and the fight would still be a blockbuster, i see no reason not to get it done in may 2015...

april 2014 manny bradley 2
may 2014 floyd vs khan

sept 2014 floyd-garcia
nov 2014 manny-jmm 5

if both can keep winning

may 2015 floyd-manny in the most lucrative fight of all time

Thats how it should go down

I think like the majority of fight fans, you buy into the bull**** way too much. Floyd wasn't afraid of losing his 0. Pac wasn't afraid of his money train being derailed. The fight just wasn't makeable. Mostly due to things that are outta those guys hands. Well, I guess Floyd could technically get over his dislike of Arum. But on the flipside, Pac didn't have to sign a multi-fight extension with Arum knowing that would be a major stumbling block for the Floyd fight.

As for your plan of how things should play out. I have no interest in seeing Floyd-Khan. I also have serious doubts that Pac makes it through a 5th JMM fight and a Bradley rematch unbeaten. And to be honest, that's why I don't really have much interest in seeing Floyd-Pac right now. I've never thought Pac could legitimately complete with Floyd. But I wanted the fight because of its historical significance. That's gone now and its never coming back. Even if Pac avenges his loses. The general feeling of a Floyd-Pac fight now would be it came too late, regardless of who wins. But especially if Floyd wins.

As for you thinking there's no money for Floyd to make. That's not true. If you pay attention closely to how GBP is handling Broner. He's being matched and promoted to be Floyd's next, and likely last mega event type opponent. And I think that one is either coming Sept 2014 or May 2015. In the meantime, Garcia had a helluva showing on the Floyd-Canelo undercard. With Floyd Sr and Angel, that fight could approach 1.5m. I think Martinez is a wildcard. And I think that fight could approach 1.5m. All in all, when people say Floyd doesn't have any big fight options, its not true.

My hope is that GbP and TR get their **** together. Not only for a potential Floyd-Pac fight. But for all the fights that are being blocked because of the promotional beef. Look at 140 and 147. How awesome would that weight range be if everyone could fight everyone. How much anticipation in the hardcore community would a Donaire-Mares fight had pre-Rigondeaux and Gonzolaz respectively. And how awesome would it be if Rigondeaux could fight Gonzolaz now? I'm just sayin'. This **** is bigger than Floyd-Pac.

[hitking]

Seems that way but every1 knows PAC beats Berto .It seems you have to be good enough to beat Berto but not be to good. That's how you get a Floyd fight

Beating Rios doesn't get you a Floyd fight, but apparently beating Berto does.

When did Canelo fight Berto again?

[Respect Power]

When did Canelo fight Berto again?

Does he want PAC to face canelo at 154 or 152 ? and when has PAC fought at 154? Fact is he said that cause he knows canelo/ PAC happening is just as much as a promotional obstacal as Pac/mayweather . Create obstacals , postpone , and avoid that's the strategy .

[hitking]

Does he want PAC to face canelo at 154 or 152 ? and when has PAC fought at 154? Fact is he said that cause he knows canelo/ PAC happening is just as much as a promotional obstacal as Pac/mayweather . Create obstacals , postpone , and avoid that's the strategy .

Or maybe, Floyd Sr is just running his **** lick about something he has absolutely no influence or say so over.