Rios has definitely outgrown the lightweight division, and what does that have to do with Rios' toughness and ability to take a punch? It's not like Pacquiao is some huge guy anyway. Had Rios opened up more instead of staying in his defensive shell, he probably would have been stopped. He admitted he didn't throw as much because he was concerned with being countered. If you want to criticize Pacquiao because you think he's lost some of his killer instinct, I'll except that, but if the notion is that Pacquiao doesn't have power, then that's just ridiculous.
What would Mayweather have done that Pacman didn't do
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I dont think manny or floyd would stop rios,,,
Rios would have looked like baldomir in there vs floydComment
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He never had huge pop, he was always a accumulation fighter something he forgot post Hatton......Rios has definitely outgrown the lightweight division, and what does that have to do with Rios' toughness and ability to take a punch? It's not like Pacquiao is some huge guy anyway. Had Rios opened up more instead of staying in his defensive shell, he probably would have been stopped. He admitted he didn't throw as much because he was concerned with being countered. If you want to criticize Pacquiao because you think he's lost some of his killer instinct, I'll except that, but if the notion is that Pacquiao doesn't have power, then that's just ridiculous.
Even vs Cotto he aint get a legit ko, it was a frivolous stoppage after a missed shot with like 30 seconds
Manny is not some big power guy, and he should be embarrassed that he wasn't able to ko a blown up lightweight, Oscar fresh out of rehab can roll out the bed and ko a trash fighter like Rios early. Manny gets zero props for the win, far lesser fighters have made far easier work of Rios, and didnt have the luxury of fighting him outside his suitable divisionComment
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Dynamic puncher.
"Pacquiao is known as a devastating puncher."
Manny is a dynamic puncher, not a devastating puncher. Hearns was a devastating puncher, Foreman, Julian Jackson, and Tito where devastating punchers. Manny is a dynamic puncher who punches with full power for 12 rounds. His stamina allows him to do that and his speed, which translates into surprising power, also. Did you hear how thunderous those shots were? He can definitely punch. For his size, he has above average power. If he hit some other welterweight with some of those same shots, he may have dropped or stopped them. Rios has an amazing chin and wasn't going to be stopped Saturday; not by Manny or Mayweather or anyone else. Don't always be fooled by prefight banter or what everyone says, use common sense when assessing a situation, or in this case, a fighter's power. Manny punches much harder than Bradley, Mayweather, Roidquez, Khan, Broner, and a slew of others. All of this steroid talk some years back was started by Floyd and Floyd only. Notice how he has always wore guys down with activity, relentlessness, and stamina. It was never one punch knockouts. Marquez is on Roids, not Manny. People just love to hate when you're on top.Comment
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Read your post up to "Marquez is on Roids, not Manny.""Pacquiao is known as a devastating puncher."
Manny is a dynamic puncher, not a devastating puncher. Hearns was a devastating puncher, Foreman, Julian Jackson, and Tito where devastating punchers. Manny is a dynamic puncher who punches with full power for 12 rounds. His stamina allows him to do that and his speed, which translates into surprising power, also. Did you hear how thunderous those shots were? He can definitely punch. For his size, he has above average power. If he hit some other welterweight with some of those same shots, he may have dropped or stopped them. Rios has an amazing chin and wasn't going to be stopped Saturday; not by Manny or Mayweather or anyone else. Don't always be fooled by prefight banter or what everyone says, use common sense when assessing a situation, or in this case, a fighter's power. Manny punches much harder than Bradley, Mayweather, Roidquez, Khan, Broner, and a slew of others. All of this steroid talk some years back was started by Floyd and Floyd only. Notice how he has always wore guys down with activity, relentlessness, and stamina. It was never one punch knockouts. Marquez is on Roids, not Manny. People just love to hate when you're on top.
Now read the last sentence. "People just love to hate on the wrong people." ( Caught it before you changed it)
Now look in the mirror.
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Watch yourself.
Watch yourself. Ask Marquez why he didn't do VADA testing for Bradley, but Bradley did. Ask yourself how he keeps gaining power and speed at age 40yrsold. He knew he couldn't deal with Manny without bringing something extra to the ring. You must be a Marquez fan. Are you upset because we all question his physique and strength coach selection this late in his career? He hates Manny and wasn't impressed with what he did Saturday. Smh. He's a hater and **** him!Comment
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Ok, this is my last answer. I respect your opinions, but we're clearly not seeing eye to eye. First of all, I don't get why you think Manny should be "embarrassed." Second, look at these guys after they fight Pacquiao. Look at their faces. These fighters react once they feel his power. Clottey said himself it's a mistake to think Pacquiao can't hurt you. He may not have that incredible one punch knockout power but he has clearly shown to have devastating punching ability. Also, when has Rios been that thoroughly destroyed? I admit it was a fight he should have won, but he was dominant against a game opponent and former champion. The guy hasn't fought in a year and was KO'd last time out. I think he was owed a fight to see where he stands.He never had huge pop, he was always a accumulation fighter something he forgot post Hatton......
Even vs Cotto he aint get a legit ko, it was a frivolous stoppage after a missed shot with like 30 seconds
Manny is not some big power guy, and he should be embarrassed that he wasn't able to ko a blown up lightweight, Oscar fresh out of rehab can roll out the bed and ko a trash fighter like Rios early. Manny gets zero props for the win, far lesser fighters have made far easier work of Rios, and didnt have the luxury of fighting him outside his suitable divisionComment
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Floyd would've done better in the clinch and probably get hit less.
There's no question Floyd is the better boxer.
The question is, is Floyd as tough as Pac, can he handle being hurt more than he's ever been hurt before? Pac has fought boxers before, and he beat them all at least once. Floyd has never fought anyone like Pacquiao.
Even if you're the best boxer in the world, If you fight pacquiao, you don't go home before you go to the hospital. He's dangerous to everybody. He's never fought someone he didn't hurt bad, I don't care whether the boxer denies it or not, their faces tell different stories.Last edited by DARKSEID; 11-26-2013, 02:41 PM.Comment
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