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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by Evol
    and i dont care what it says on paper, if we go by that all the time then a lot of fights shouldnt happen then. we all know manny gets hit in every fight of his, brandon doesnt have to be a master counter puncher or be lighting fast to land on manny. brandon will land and how pac react is what we've all been waiting for. this is why i said this will be a tough fight for manny. if manny was to pick a guy with less power i wouldnt feel this way but rios is a heavy puncher regardless of how u look at him skill wise.
    I will remember this and hold you to it.

    if the fight was at 140 your point about rios power would have more substance.

    You don't know if manny's chin can take a hit and you also don't know if rios power will come with him to 147.

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    • Evol
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      #52
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Evol, its not just me giving Rios no chance dude. Stop blaming me for him being such a big underdog. Look at Roach's comments. Come on man!

      Manny gets all the credit a win over a 4-1 underdog deserves.

      I already said if you really believe this ok and I apologize.

      Look man, you can say I'm doing this and that but after all the back and forth you know its not me just doing this to hate on manny.

      Why can't you just go with the truth-

      Manny got KTFO in his last fight not because he was shot but because he foolishly dropped his hands when pressing to KO a guy he had badly hurt.

      His return fight is almost 1 year later against a JWW moving up who has never fought at ww, who is coming off a loss to another 2nd tier JWW.

      We don't know how manny will take a punch, especially if Rios power comes upo with him to 147. But we also don't know if Rios can take a ww punch, especially the punch of someone with 1 punch KO power like Manny.

      The people who set betting lines for this fight took ALL the same things you did into consideration and in an unbiased but profit driven manner installed Manny as a 4-1 favorite. Why they don't see it more like your description-I don't know.

      Does this mean manny will definitely win, of course not.

      At some point you have to let go of this being some kind of personal attack on manny. It isn't. I'm as honest in my appraisal of this fight as you are. Hoepfully, you can accept this.
      its not about u not giving rios any chance its u constantly throwing in how he's not a true ww, he's never fought there etc. if u feel he has no chance then cool leave it at that. theres no need to go on and on about the reason why they picked rios is because he's a face face brawler, not a true ww, etc. come on dude! low kep taking shots right there. and again in my other post what do u expect roach to say about brandon? i wasnt gonna bring mayweather sr and roger into this but they never seem to have anything good to say about the opposite opponent so ur point??

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      • Evol
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        #53
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        I will remember this and hold you to it.

        if the fight was at 140 your point about rios power would have more substance.

        You don't know if manny's chin can take a hit and you also don't know if rios power will come with him to 147.
        hold me to it, im all for good action fights. if i care so much about what it says on paper then why am i still holding out for a floyd/pac fight?? if we go by whats on paper then this fight should have never been brought up and like i said if we go by whats on paper then 90% of the pass fights shouldnt have never happen. and u dont know either how manny and rios will respond thats why i said this is a tough fight. dude whats wrong with u??

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          #54
          Originally posted by Evol
          its not about u not giving rios any chance its u constantly throwing in how he's not a true ww, he's never fought there etc. if u feel he has no chance then cool leave it at that. theres no need to go on and on about the reason why they picked rios is because he's a face face brawler, not a true ww, etc. come on dude! low kep taking shots right there. and again in my other post what do u expect roach to say about brandon? i wasnt gonna bring mayweather sr and roger into this but they never seem to have anything good to say about the opposite opponent so ur point??
          whether its floyd sr or roger the end result is the same-posters use those comments to evaluate the fight. You would think roach would say the fight is harder-but I agree with you.

          OK, i'll stop taking shots at Manny and this fight. Enjoy it. If he loses, i'll pay you and I will eat a lot of crow.

          I appreciate the fact you went hard without going Gong or Hectari!

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            #55
            im not even trying to hype rios up so i can talk and brag about manny if manny was to win, i know this is what ur thinking. im just being real here, its u down playing rios acting like he's weak has no heart and is a quiter or something. i dont care if u think rios will lose but for u to act like he's some bum off the street is rediculous. even if u think rios have no skill u cant deny his punching power and the fact that pacman just got put to sleep. this is the only reason why i picked rios over manny. if this was 2 years ago i would have gone with pacman.
            Last edited by Evol; 11-22-2013, 04:03 PM.

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            • Holywarrior
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              #56
              Originally posted by Evol
              hold me to it, im all for good action fights. if i care so much about what it says on paper then why am i still holding out for a floyd/pac fight?? if we go by whats on paper then this fight should have never been brought up and like i said if we go by whats on paper then 90% of the pass fights shouldnt have never happen. and u dont know either how manny and rios will respond thats why i said this is a tough fight. dude whats wrong with u??
              I agree. Every fight is a tough fight actually. But Rios shows very little in the speed department, and couldn't adapt if he was a frog in a lake.

              On the big stage, this isn't a big fight. Manny should win this and he is favored BIG to do so.

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              • hectari
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                #57
                Dunn is a snake similar to Elie. manipulating things leaving out circumstances.

                He never mentions that Slow ass Margarito of all the fighters was able to hit Manny Pacquiao the most, or Alfredo Angulo slow as was able to knock down an nearly finish slick lara, and slow ass lamotta was able to beat Robinson.

                He keeps saying Rios is a former lightweight or going up in weight. But doesn't take into account his size and frame, he never takes into consideration that Rios was killing himself to make 135 and he was still cutting massive weight at 140, at 147 he said he will be fresh and if you see him at 147 he is still leaning out. Rios walks around at 180 pounds when he isn't fighting something Dunn never mentions.

                He tries to leave that out hoping ignorant people will buy into his agenda, he is similar to Sekbach in his ways of propaganda.

                Rios is not small, he is and will be bigger than Pacman.

                Dunn is also one of the guys who bashed pacman for catchweights and then when Floyd drained Canelo he justified it.

                Guerrero tailor made for Floyd but because he had a fight at 147 before it makes him credible, yet he claims Bradley and Marquez are BLOWN up little guys, yet they had more fights above 140 than Guerrero. And are considered in the top 3 welters in world and on the p4p list.

                Fighters moving up in weight is not grounds for discrediting a fighters opponent. It depends on the circumstances, a cherry pick was Oscar calling little pac out to 147. Floyd and Pac both moved up in weight. Dunns just doing this because he is mad that Floyd gets discredited so he has to attack pacman.

                Many great boxers fought smaller fighters going up in weight, Dunn please be fair across the board and discredit all those fighters or else nobody will take you serious.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  Dunn is a snake similar to Elie. manipulating things leaving out circumstances.

                  He never mentions that Slow ass Margarito of all the fighters was able to hit Manny Pacquiao the most, or Alfredo Angulo slow as was able to knock down an nearly finish slick lara, and slow ass lamotta was able to beat Robinson.

                  He keeps saying Rios is a former lightweight or going up in weight. But doesn't take into account his size and frame, he never takes into consideration that Rios was killing himself to make 135 and he was still cutting massive weight at 140, at 147 he said he will be fresh and if you see him at 147 he is still leaning out. Rios walks around at 180 pounds when he isn't fighting something Dunn never mentions.

                  He tries to leave that out hoping ignorant people will buy into his agenda, he is similar to Sekbach in his ways of propaganda.

                  Rios is not small, he is and will be bigger than Pacman.

                  Dunn is also one of the guys who bashed pacman for catchweights and then when Floyd drained Canelo he justified it.

                  Guerrero tailor made for Floyd but because he had a fight at 147 before it makes him credible, yet he claims Bradley and Marquez are BLOWN up little guys, yet they had more fights above 140 than Guerrero. And are considered in the top 3 welters in world and on the p4p list.

                  Fighters moving up in weight is not grounds for discrediting a fighters opponent. It depends on the circumstances, a cherry pick was Oscar calling little pac out to 147. Floyd and Pac both moved up in weight. Dunns just doing this because he is mad that Floyd gets discredited so he has to attack pacman.

                  Many great boxers fought smaller fighters going up in weight, Dunn please be fair across the board and discredit all those fighters or else nobody will take you serious.
                  I'm now Anaconda Dunn. or better yet, since I'm a lakers fan, the Dunn Mamba.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hectari
                    Dunn is a snake similar to Elie. manipulating things leaving out circumstances.

                    He never mentions that Slow ass Margarito of all the fighters was able to hit Manny Pacquiao the most, or Alfredo Angulo slow as was able to knock down an nearly finish slick lara, and slow ass lamotta was able to beat Robinson.

                    He keeps saying Rios is a former lightweight or going up in weight. But doesn't take into account his size and frame, he never takes into consideration that Rios was killing himself to make 135 and he was still cutting massive weight at 140, at 147 he said he will be fresh and if you see him at 147 he is still leaning out. Rios walks around at 180 pounds when he isn't fighting something Dunn never mentions.

                    He tries to leave that out hoping ignorant people will buy into his agenda, he is similar to Sekbach in his ways of propaganda.

                    Rios is not small, he is and will be bigger than Pacman.

                    Dunn is also one of the guys who bashed pacman for catchweights and then when Floyd drained Canelo he justified it.

                    Guerrero tailor made for Floyd but because he had a fight at 147 before it makes him credible, yet he claims Bradley and Marquez are BLOWN up little guys, yet they had more fights above 140 than Guerrero. And are considered in the top 3 welters in world and on the p4p list.

                    Fighters moving up in weight is not grounds for discrediting a fighters opponent. It depends on the circumstances, a cherry pick was Oscar calling little pac out to 147. Floyd and Pac both moved up in weight. Dunns just doing this because he is mad that Floyd gets discredited so he has to attack pacman.

                    Many great boxers fought smaller fighters going up in weight, Dunn please be fair across the board and discredit all those fighters or else nobody will take you serious.
                    Hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      Dunn is a snake similar to Elie. manipulating things leaving out circumstances.

                      He never mentions that Slow ass Margarito of all the fighters was able to hit Manny Pacquiao the most, or Alfredo Angulo slow as was able to knock down an nearly finish slick lara, and slow ass lamotta was able to beat Robinson.

                      He keeps saying Rios is a former lightweight or going up in weight. But doesn't take into account his size and frame, he never takes into consideration that Rios was killing himself to make 135 and he was still cutting massive weight at 140, at 147 he said he will be fresh and if you see him at 147 he is still leaning out. Rios walks around at 180 pounds when he isn't fighting something Dunn never mentions.

                      He tries to leave that out hoping ignorant people will buy into his agenda, he is similar to Sekbach in his ways of propaganda.

                      Rios is not small, he is and will be bigger than Pacman.

                      Dunn is also one of the guys who bashed pacman for catchweights and then when Floyd drained Canelo he justified it.

                      Guerrero tailor made for Floyd but because he had a fight at 147 before it makes him credible, yet he claims Bradley and Marquez are BLOWN up little guys, yet they had more fights above 140 than Guerrero. And are considered in the top 3 welters in world and on the p4p list.

                      Fighters moving up in weight is not grounds for discrediting a fighters opponent. It depends on the circumstances, a cherry pick was Oscar calling little pac out to 147. Floyd and Pac both moved up in weight. Dunns just doing this because he is mad that Floyd gets discredited so he has to attack pacman.

                      Many great boxers fought smaller fighters going up in weight, Dunn please be fair across the board and discredit all those fighters or else nobody will take you serious.
                      Hectari has finally completely gone over the cliff and has achieved edgarg status.

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