boxing accomplishment roach vs garcia

[SCtrojansbaby]

True.

Maidana lost VS Alexander

Rios VS Abril (sort of) and Alvarado

Donaire VS Rigo



Robert is good, but IMO his fighters haven't even faced the best yet, and when they step up to top guys, they lose...

Robert had only been training Maidana for a few months when they fought Alexander. Donaire was killing top competition for years with and before Robert.

[duran100]

Garcia is a former i b f world champion. Freddie boxed for and lost an e s p n tv title, and a continental americas title which he also lost. Forget where they at now robert worlds champ, Freddie journeyman/ gatekeeper. Robert also develops boxers, Freddie polishes already developed talent ala pacquiao who was a former world champ when he met freddie

[Los Zetas]

I forgot Provod was a champion thats 3 in 10 years. Garcia has 4 and he's only been a full time trainer for 6 or 7 years

Roach made Amir Khan a WC

[Los Zetas]

Robert had only been training Maidana for a few months when they fought Alexander. Donaire was killing top competition for years with and before Robert.

The top guys Donaire beat were before Robert as well. Donaire and his dad had beef and Donaire joined robert.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Mikey gets a lot of input from his dad...

Gradovich did become a champ under Garcia but was at the gym just over a year. I remember him joining. He learned mos of his skills elsewhere.

Gradovich had like 10 pro fights and was still fighting 6 rounders. Thats not the same as Khan who already had several 12 round fights and held a minor belt for 2 years.

[SCtrojansbaby]

The top guys Donaire beat were before Robert as well. Donaire and his dad had beef and Donaire joined robert.

I said that already. Donaire is the ONLY champion Robert inherited.

[Los Zetas]

Gradovich had like 10 pro fights and was still fighting 6 rounders. Thats not the same as Khan who already had several 12 round fights and held a minor belt for 2 years.

He developed Khan quite a bit, particularly the jab. I have seen Khan since the Olympics and Freddie developed him. Freddie told him that making 135 was also too hard on his frame.

It isn't the same but Billy Dib isn't exactly the type of level Khan faced either.

Khan was getting dropped by guys with 5 KO's pre Roach.

[SCtrojansbaby]

He developed Khan quite a bit, particularly the jab. I have seen Khan since the Olympics and Freddie developed him. Freddie told him that making 135 was also too hard on his frame.

It isn't the same but Billy Dib isn't exactly the type of level Khan faced either.

Khan was getting dropped by guys with 5 KO's pre Roach.

Khan was well on his way to a title shot before training with Roach. Gradovich was a complete unknown its a different situation.

[Los Zetas]

I also recall Roach with Israel Vasquez winning a title

[Los Zetas]

Khan was well on his way to a title shot before training with Roach. Gradovich was a complete unknown its a different situation.

Khan got KTFO by Prescott before he joined Roach, WTF you on about. His title shot 'dreams' were over pre Roach. Trust me, I am a huge fan of his and have seen every one of his fights since he was 17 and been to one of his fights too.

Roach developed him, and he got a title. Add that to the list.