Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

[The Big Dunn]

why would he settle for 40m and let may have well over 200m when they were equal draws? people pay to watch floyd lose get that in your head

Uhh because he wants the fight and thats what the offer was.

You already showed what kind of fan you are calling $40 mil "chump change" for a fighter who never earned that much and is fighting for $18 mil plus ppv that is expected to make him $10 mil less than that.

When your parents offer you $25 allowance do you turn to them and say "no, thats chump change" and then take the trash out for $20?

[turnedup]

But that's all numbers and hearsay from Golden Boy. I don't trust their numbers at all.

These are the same people that claim showtime did well on the Guerrero PPV

I agree but it's not just GBP cuz, this is a running theme with just about every analyst. The reality is people who don't buy ppv's would buy it for that fight, people who've never bought a mayweather shirt or a manny shirt will buy it. I think $400 million is an appropriate number and I even then still think it's low..I think it would likely also be the first ppv event with god damned commercials in it..they are going to milk the hell of this fight if they make it happen.

[hitking]

huge difference may has no knockout power... it would have to go all 12 rounds

You don't think Floyd hits harder than JMM?

[turnedup]

Uhh because he wants the fight and thats what the offer was.

You already showed what kind of fan you are calling $40 mil "chump change" for a fighter who never earned that much and is fighting for $18 mil plus ppv that is expected to make him $10 mil less than that.

When your parents offer you $25 allowance do you turn to them and say "no, thats chump change" and then take the trash out for $20?

You are wrong and you are right, he's actually earned $34 million bucks for fighting a guy who doesn't really sell ppv's.

[big_james10]

I repeat, Pacquiao didn't refuse testing. He agreed to unlimited urine and three blood tests. The cutoff was the issue.

First time I heard about Mayweather asking for test was from a local Detroit news. It summed up what Pacquiao has agreed to and reported that what Pacquiao had agreed to was way above and beyond current testing rules. The cut off was the issue.

Mayweather's tests with Mosley had a 19 day cut off. His fight with Ortiz had 18 days cut off. About 16 days in the Cotto, so there's the pattern. Floyd himself never go beyond 14 days.

I agree with you. Pacman should have called your idol's testing bluff right away.

To me it's not so much about the testing. Mayweather wanted more money. If Pacquiao said yes to Floyd's testing brand, Floyd would have come up with another roadblock.

Four years have passed. Floyd's behaviour in all those years should have been enough to make you realize it's Floyd that is blocking the fight.

If you're saying Floyd can do no wrong... there's nothing more to say to you.

You are making the same lame argument that Pacquaio nuthuggers have been making for years and it makes no more sense than it did in 2009 and 2010 when this message board was littered with 20 posts a day saying the same thing.

Pacquaio refused to consent to random drug testing and refused to consent to drug testing without a cutoff date. Saying "I agree to drug testing if I know when the tests are going to be given" is the equivalent of openly cheating on an exam and expecting the instructor to give you the highest grade possible.

Mayweather/Mosley, Mayweather/Ortiz and Mayweather/Cotto did not have a cutoff date. The USADA simply chose not to test after a certain date. The boxers didn't know when the testing would stop, so it is is not the same thing.

[New England]

if they can beat rios in an exciting fight without much damage, and they're willing to take B side money, i wouldn't be surprised at all to see this fight in 2014.


book it. manny's just going to have to be OK with a smaller cut. this fight will still sell 2.5-3 million ppv. it will be a career high payday either way.

[Holywarrior]

I agree but it's not just GBP cuz, this is a running theme with just about every analyst. The reality is people who don't buy ppv's would buy it for that fight, people who've never bought a mayweather shirt or a manny shirt will buy it. I think $400 million is an appropriate number and I even then still think it's low..I think it would likely also be the first ppv event with god damned commercials in it..they are going to milk the hell of this fight if they make it happen.

That Forbes piece was nothing but an opinion piece lol

and at 50/50 that was in 2009. the 40 million dollar offer didn't come until 2012 when Pac's stock dropped considerably.

Withh eachother the PPV would probably be lucky to get 2.7 million buys.

[Marvellous1]

I repeat, Pacquiao didn't refuse testing. He agreed to unlimited urine and three blood tests. The cutoff was the issue.

First time I heard about Mayweather asking for test was from a local Detroit news. It summed up what Pacquiao has agreed to and reported that what Pacquiao had agreed to was way above and beyond current testing rules. The cut off was the issue.

Mayweather's tests with Mosley had a 19 day cut off. His fight with Ortiz had 18 days cut off. About 16 days in the Cotto, so there's the pattern. Floyd himself never go beyond 14 days.

I agree with you. Pacman should have called your idol's testing bluff right away.

To me it's not so much about the testing. Mayweather wanted more money. If Pacquiao said yes to Floyd's testing brand, Floyd would have come up with another roadblock.

Four years have passed. Floyd's behaviour in all those years should have been enough to make you realize it's Floyd that is blocking the fight.

If you're saying Floyd can do no wrong... there's nothing more to say to you.

At that time, there were NO MORE roadblocks. Everything else had been agreed. Money, ring size, gloves, weight penalties. Everything. The fact is, Pacquiao didn't call Mayweather's bluff. And there would've been the same cut off for both men for fight regardless of before or after. There it is without passion or prejudice. Again, Mayweather isn't my idol and he does plenty wrong, like fighting Canelo at catchweight when he didn't need to and flamed Pacquiao for doing it.

Pacquiao is now demanding testing despite never doing it before because magically he now knows it's good for boxing, when that thought escaped him with the biggest fight of his life on the line. I'll ask again (since you conveniently sidestepped it before). Why do you think he is demanding rather than paying it lip service?

[hitking]

If Manny wanted/wants to fight Floyd so badly. Why sign a multi-fight extension that pretty much killed any possibility of the fight being made?

[LouIE G]

Wowwwews!!!167 posts and counting,this show me how relevant this fight still is,and i know mayweathers people and himself are reading this too,thinking "wut do i have to do to get rid of this guy,he lost his last 2 fights,i dominated marquez,marquez koed him,ill beat timothy bradley,bradley beat him,so technically i dont have to fight this guy"..maybe sumthing like that but the only way to clear up this debate is to step foot in the ring with this man..its still breaks the 2.4million ppv record,and pac would still be the toughest opponent of mayweathers career BUT....BElieve me if pac destroys rios and looks like the beast before the 4th marquez fight,be assured mayweather will come up with another excuse to not fight this man!!