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  • #21
    Originally posted by PBP View Post
    OK. If that's what you want. Ward will be back in February/March. He needs an opponent. Let's get it signed.
    Virgil Hunter mentioned DeGale as a possible opponent (Groves too, but he's going to get poleaxed).

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ImStillHere View Post
      Yeah like I care what a guy with Degale in his avi thinks! Keep fooling yourself that they let the good guy win. Absolutely sad when fans can't admit that fighters they like have lost. Grow up
      I'm not the only one who thought DeGale won. The majority of the media did too

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        I'm not the only one who thought DeGale won. The majority of the media did too
        I didn't want to get into a big explanation but here it goes. My brother is/was a huge Degale fan and going into the Groves fight felt that Groves had no chance and that Degale is the next big thing. When he starts complaining that Degale looks **** and is losing I know what I'm seeing is not because I'm biased it's because Groves was winning. Same happened with Garcia-Matthysse, on here people act like it's close while I'm loving the fact Garcia is winning easy, my brothers losing it because and I quote " the fight is boring because it's too one-sided" So I laugh when people try talk me out of how I see the results of fights, because and I hate to sound full of myself, but me and my brother are great at scoring fights. Where you are clearly biased and start bringing up ****** childish things like they let Groves win because he was the "good guy" the banter before that fight went both ways there was no good guy. Why didn't they give Oscar the Floyd fight? I mean he was the Good guy. Now go away.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by F!x View Post
          James Degale looked very good for most of the fight against Davis last night. He looks like one of the best super middleweights on the planet right now. I thought Degale beat Groves clearly and was robbed in that fight largely due to the crowd who were mainly supporting Groves and cheered at everything he did, which in turn influenced the judging.

          Dyah Davis sparred with Andre Dirrell in preparation for the Degale fight, but Degale dominated him in nearly every round. Degale can get sloppy sometimes and holds his hands low a lot which he would have to sharpen up against the likes of Ward and Froch but I give Degale a decent shot at beating both fighters. He is approaching elite level very fast and I believe he would up his game with the added motivation of fighting an elite level boxer.
          i'm so sorry BUTT you are dilutional if you think degale would have a chance against the top two.
          degale you stay home and fight the locals and you will do good.
          way to weak strenghth wise. with second tier skills.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ImStillHere View Post
            I didn't want to get into a big explanation but here it goes. My brother is/was a huge Degale fan and going into the Groves fight felt that Groves had no chance and that Degale is the next big thing. When he starts complaining that Degale looks **** and is losing I know what I'm seeing is not because I'm biased it's because Groves was winning. Same happened with Garcia-Matthysse, on here people act like it's close while I'm loving the fact Garcia is winning easy, my brothers losing it because and I quote " the fight is boring because it's too one-sided" So I laugh when people try talk me out of how I see the results of fights, because and I hate to sound full of myself, but me and my brother are great at scoring fights. Where you are clearly biased and start bringing up ****** childish things like they let Groves win because he was the "good guy" the banter before that fight went both ways there was no good guy. Why didn't they give Oscar the Floyd fight? I mean he was the Good guy. Now go away.
            Because Oscar-Floyd wasn't close. And even then, one judge scored for Oscar

            The issue is more a UK based thing IMO. People over here seem to care more about the personality of the boxers rather than the actual skills. Carl Froch himself actually brings up the idea in this interview at the 2.20 mark



            DeGale clearly won the 12th round but the two judges who scored for Groves gave him the last round just to sure things up. Again, I'm not the only one who scored for DeGale. The majority of observers did

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
              Virgil Hunter mentioned DeGale as a possible opponent (Groves too, but he's going to get poleaxed).
              If he fights 3-4 times next year I'm all for it. You can't fight 3 killers per year. With the quick turnaround I think its a good fight to take.

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              • #27
                DeGale has no conviction in his punches man,c'mon anyone can see that.he really has no power at the weight,you can't make somebody respect you when their not hurting you.I am no Groves fan,as neither am I a DeGale fan,but you look at Groves and he throws some punishing shots,where with DeGale he lacks anything special.

                Looking at Groves vs Froch opinion is 60/40 Froch,with DeGale chances against Froch folk laugh,hard.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                  DeGale has no conviction in his punches man,c'mon anyone can see that.he really has no power at the weight,you can't make somebody respect you when their not hurting you.I am no Groves fan,as neither am I a DeGale fan,but you look at Groves and he throws some punishing shots,where with DeGale he lacks anything special.

                  Looking at Groves vs Froch opinion is 60/40 Froch,with DeGale chances against Froch folk laugh,hard.
                  Funny that Groves was the only one who was hurt in their fight then...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    I'm not the only one who thought DeGale won. The majority of the media did too
                    I thought Degale won myself.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by PBP View Post
                      If he fights 3-4 times next year I'm all for it. You can't fight 3 killers per year. With the quick turnaround I think its a good fight to take.
                      Degale's not going to fight Ward.

                      No chance.

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