10th anniversary of Pacquaio vs Barrera 1..questions?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I just read every post and nobody mentioned, barrera being medically check out leading into the pacquiao fight. Mentally he wasnt in it that night. There was a queation mark about a plate in barrera's head. He was having problems in his camp. hbo did a segment on it right before the fight started. Thats why it was so one sided

you mean that plate that he had put in in 1997? yea...he was doing fine with it for 6 years but when he got his ass kicked by PAC, it was the reason

[joseph5620]

On 15 November,2003..the rise of Manny Pacquaio began with an impressive knock out win over undisputed featherweight champ and P4P ruler Marco Antonio Barrera..who had been on an 11 fight winning run..beating the likes of Morales,Tapia and Hamed.

1.Where do you rank this fight among Pacquaio's best wins?

2.What was the reason behind this one sided ferocious beatdown?

3.How did Pacquiao beat prime barrera but lose to a shot morales?

4.What upset in the current boxing world could match the upset result of this fight...GGG moving up dominating then koing Ward?

I picked Pacquiao to win because I knew what he could do and had seen him fight. I wasn't unfamiliar with him. I knew his speed and power would be too much. If Junior Jones could stop Barrera I saw no reason a superior and more complete fighter couldn't.

Also, the southpaw stance was definitely going to be a problem. To me, this was not a big upset but a great performance from Pacquiao.

[joseph5620]

you mean that plate that he had put in in 1997? yea...he was doing fine with it for 6 years but when he got his ass kicked by PAC, it was the reason

Yeah, that's called a convenient excuse. Barrera got his ass kicked because he was fighting an opponent who could constantly beat him to the punch.

[Ghazan]

I just read every post and nobody mentioned, barrera being medically check out leading into the pacquiao fight. Mentally he wasnt in it that night. There was a queation mark about a plate in barrera's head. He was having problems in his camp. hbo did a segment on it right before the fight started. Thats why it was so one sided

I watched the segement..Barrera had the metal plates inserted 16 fights before the Pacquaio one..so that's no excuse..and Barrera never used it as an excuse after the fight

At the time of the fight Barrera was the one of top 3 pound for pound fighters on the planet..and in the best run of his career.

Before the fight..Barrera was quoted "He reminds me of a young me,he has a fire in him..which I don't think I'll be able to put out"

[Sweet Pea 50]

I just read every post and nobody mentioned, barrera being medically check out leading into the pacquiao fight. Mentally he wasnt in it that night. There was a queation mark about a plate in barrera's head. He was having problems in his camp. hbo did a segment on it right before the fight started. Thats why it was so one sided

you mean that plate that he had put in in 1997? yea...he was doing fine with it for 6 years but when he got his ass kicked by PAC, it was the reason

I watched the segement..Barrera had the metal plates inserted 16 fights before the Pacquaio one..so that's no excuse..and Barrera never used it as an excuse after the fight

At the time of the fight Barrera was the one of top 3 pound for pound fighters on the planet..and in the best run of his career.

Before the fight..Barrera was quoted "He reminds me of a young me,he has a fire in him..which I don't think I'll be able to put out"

Well there goes that....

[joseph5620]

Where was MAB in the P4P rankings when this went down?

MAB was on an 11 fight streak and in a lot of wars at this point. It wasn't really a surprise that it ended.

Also, MAB had lost 3 times by this point. Fairly recently. Not at the beginning of his career either. Twice to Junior Jones. Once by KTFO.

My personal sentiment: Overblown achievement. Decent enough win but overblown to Chavez/Taylor levels. The fanboys make it seem like Pac beat Chavez. He beat Barrera, the one who was already KTFO and owned by Jones and lost to Morales.

When Barrera beat Hamed he was highly rated and peaking as a fighter. The win for Pacquiao was significant even though I felt Pacquiao was a bad style match up and underrated at that point. He was way too good for people to overlook him in that fight.

[BUNGALOWS]

Really? Tyson/Spinks?

Spinks wasn't a true HW. And no one even gave Spinks a chance at the time.

[Holywarrior]

yes that is about the only one,, but spinks was a semi-retired fight, and it was 25 years ago....

hatton was active, and manny crushed him,,, you dont see that very often,,

Just saying, it's been done before.

[ladiesman217]

Barrera was ranked #3 on the P4P list when this fight happened.

[Holywarrior]

Spinks wasn't a true HW. And no one even gave Spinks a chance at the time.

So now you're changing the criteria
Hatton was the underdog too, and Spinks was a legit heavyweight.


Was Spinks lineal champ? Yes.
Was he stopped in a round? Yes.