Did The De La Hoya fight prove what a hypejob Mayweather is?

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  • Light_Speed
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    #191
    Floyd beat Oscar pretty clearly but he didn't look extraordinary, when he fight guys whit high fundamentals he usually looks less than stellar.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #192
      Originally posted by R_Walken
      I haven't watched the fight in a few months and don't have the scorecard on hand so I'm not going to be 100% accurate and I agree with some of what you said Oscar started out decent and you could give him 3 of the first 4 if you were biased towards Oscar I think I gave him 1 clear round with one close round.
      The middle rounds was all Floyd I won't give Osacr credit with those late flurries trying to steal rounds I dont think you did either and the late rounds I think I gave him 1 round with 1 close round that could go either way.

      I think we agree on most things but I would say your biased towards Oscar and gave him the benifit of the Doubt when the rounds were close and I didn't. I just think Floyd clearly won, Oscar put up a fight and respect him for always fighting the best but there is no way the fight is a draw or a Oscar win.
      Im not being biased towards oscar,,, I could care less who wins or loses,, the thing that hurt floyd was he didnt do much early or late,, yes he dominated the middle rounds,, but early and late he didnt really ever take control, oscar controlled the early rounds,, and the late rounds floyd didnt do much, and oscar didnt either except for trying to steal them ala SRL,,, If floyd had continued to be aggressive and not stepped off the gas pedal he would have won a lopsided decision,, but he let his foot off the gas IMO down the stretch run, allowing oscar a chance to steal due to floyd's inactivity,, I just dont think oscar did as good of job as SRL in stealing rounds, hence why he lost and SRL won

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      • KickAzz
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        #193
        against a prime DLH, floyd would have had more problems

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        • djtmal
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          #194
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          The odh floyd fight shows that its possible to take a fight where you get a small percentage of the purse if you truly want the fight. When you take the smaller share and win you get rewarded.

          Too bad other odh opponents never learned this.
          fmj took the odlh fight as a golden opportunity to market himself beyond what plateau defense minded/master boxers normally get to...the "money may" baller/high roller persona, and all the thug talk is an act...i don't see how ppl can't see that...

          all he needed was to get a decision on the scorecards, and a new cash cow was born...years ago you really had to whoop the champ...old schoolers know what i'm talking about...lol

          ali (aka the louisville lip) in his day had more haters than fans...ppl paid to see him get his azz whipped....same with money now...at the end of the day, it is still about putting azzes in the seats...

          as far as cherrypicking...eh, looking at the current crop of fighters outside of maybe pacquaio, floyd can fight any of those guys and at least get a decision on his worst night...great for floyd fans, not so great for non-fans of extreme technical boxing...
          Last edited by djtmal; 11-11-2013, 07:28 PM.

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          • 7_rocket
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            #195
            I guess Manny was also a hypejob since he beat a faded oscar at a weight he hasn't been in 10 years?

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            • pinpointsman
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              #196
              This thread the difference between real hate and the constructive criticism of the overhyping that Golovkin gets.

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              • djtmal
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                #197
                Originally posted by 7_rocket
                I guess Manny was also a hypejob since he beat a faded oscar at a weight he hasn't been in 10 years?
                well, i think he earned his hype by flattening fighters (outside of marquez of course...lol)...quite respectable in my book...

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                • Adolf H
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                  #198
                  None of that matters to Floyd. Remember, he's a RICH coward.

                  Hey, he said it himself.

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                  • Dr Rumack
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                    #199
                    I don't think it proved much of anything. Floyd was a lot better than a pretty disappointing version of Oscar that night. I had him winning 9-3 I think.

                    I guess the one thing you would take out of it with respect to Floyd is the extent to which a good jab can cause him difficulty, something which was reiterated in the Cotto fight.

                    I remember right after the fight, Jim Lampley - in keeping with his tradition of being wildly inaccurate in his description of fights - commented on how Floyd had brilliantly 'taken Oscar's jab away'. Emanuel Steward had to correct him and inform him that Floyd had not, in fact, done anything to take Oscar's jab away. Oscar himself decided to change strategy.

                    The most likely cause was that Oscar just didn't have the stamina to keep working behind his jab, and he knew he was going to run out of gas down the stretch. So he stopped pushing Mayweather back with the jab, and instead tried to land something big in an exchange. A pretty hopeless policy to pursue against Floyd as he found out.

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                    • Adolf H
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by pinpointsman
                      This thread the difference between real hate and the constructive criticism of the overhyping that Golovkin gets.
                      Well no. Floyd's criticism is based on him ducking opponents while Golovkin's criticism is due to skin color.

                      So you're wrong here. Just like it was wrong for God to bring you into existence.

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