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  • Simurgh
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    #151
    Originally posted by drenlou
    Ok but,theres way to nullify all that power,and thats speed and movement,stevens showed that forcone round...golovkins defence is not that great so a 100%martinez i believe will expose ggg as an ordinary fighter that he is
    ordinary fighter, lol. that's a good one.

    People still think of golovkin as a brawler. believe me gennady could have box stevens without being touched towards the wide UD, but who would like to see that... before every fight ggg says how he likes wars and that the things he used to do in amateurs do not appeal that much in pros.

    at 160 there is no fighter that can take ggg's pressure for all 12 rounds.

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    • HeroBando
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      #152
      Originally posted by drenlou
      I can agree with you on that,if he had said 30 yrs then he would have a better argument..but he is rite when itvcomes down to european atg..you could mention one name that might be recognized as an atg in sum peoples eyes and that would be sven ottke..
      Uh not Ottke for sure. Probably no Euro ATGs that started in the past 20 years, but again less than 5 worldwide, and maybe only 1 US American

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        #153
        Originally posted by drenlou
        Ok but,theres way to nullify all that power,and thats speed and movement,stevens showed that forcone round...golovkins defence is not that great so a 100%martinez i believe will expose ggg as an ordinary fighter that he is
        You don't understand much about GGG's attributes. It's ok, you will learn in due time.

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        • LouIE G
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          #154
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          ordinary fighter, lol. that's a good one.

          People still think of golovkin as a brawler. believe me gennady could have box stevens without being touched towards the wide UD, but who would like to see that... before every fight ggg says how he likes wars and that the things he used to do in amateurs do not appeal that much in pros.

          at 160 there is no fighter that can take ggg's pressure for all 12 rounds.
          Listen how many fighter had gotten that invisibility taken away from them...?look at tyson vs douglas,chavez vs randall,lewis vs rahman,trinidadvs hopkins,hamed vs barrera,donaire vs rigo,mosely vs margarito,pac vs marquez,cmon dude after all these guys lost people were saying these guys were great,nobody could beat them,and when they lose they r ordinary fighters...ggg has fought no one...a100%martinez exposes him,and im not basing that off of history,im basing it off of this potential fight..martinez beats ggg
          Last edited by LouIE G; 11-11-2013, 08:25 PM. Reason: people r misquoting

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          • LouIE G
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            #155
            Originally posted by Light_Speed
            You don't understand much about GGG's attributes. It's ok, you will learn in due time.
            Attributes??gtfo wit that im gonna continue to say hes a ordinary fighter until proven otherwise...direll beat him in the olympics,so his attributes then were questionable..ggg needs to fight a name fighter with at least sum chance to change my tune..it is wut it is

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              #156
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Uh not Ottke for sure. Probably no Euro ATGs that started in the past 20 years, but again less than 5 worldwide, and maybe only 1 US American
              Joe calzaghe??

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              • HeroBando
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                #157
                Originally posted by drenlou
                Listen how many fighter had gotten that invisibility taken away from them...?look at tyson vs douglas,chavez vs randall,lewis vs rahman,trinidadvs hopkins,hamed vs barrera,donaire vs rigo,mosely vs margarito,pac vs marquez,cmon dude after all these guys lost people were saying these guys were great,nobody could beat them,when they lose they r ordinary fighters...ggg has fought no one...a100%martinez exposes him,and im not basing that off of history,im basing it off of this potential fight..martinez beats ggg
                Gotcha. All those guys that lost a fight = ordinary fighters, including Ali, SRR. To you only undefeated guys are extraordinary. So no wonder you have Ottke as an ATG. Rene Cuenca >> Hopkins

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by drenlou
                  Attributes??gtfo wit that im gonna continue to say hes a ordinary fighter until proven otherwise...direll beat him in the olympics,so his attributes then were questionable..ggg needs to fight a name fighter with at least sum chance to change my tune..it is wut it is
                  Dirrell lost to GGG in the olympics but it was close. The fact that GGG had a close match with a skilled fighter like Dirrell should tell you something about his attributes.

                  So I guess you called Ward ordinary before he was proven? I didn't.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by drenlou
                    Joe calzaghe??
                    Right on cue

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      There's a lot you don't know. There's actually not many American ATG's that started their career in the past 20 years. There's Floyd, and ? Even world wide, not many ATGs that started their career in the past 20 years.
                      I'll name u five right off the back.........

                      theres mayweather, sweet p. b hop. tony, jones jr. oscar is a little lower in the ratings but he's still greater then anything from the soviets in the last 20 years. timothy bradley (HOF and great potential at ATG status) ward also has great potential (he's already HOF and dam near a atg)


                      worldwide? Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao. (cotto is a first balled HOF and great potential at ATG status)


                      since I gave you a list, name one ATG from the soviets in the last 22 years.

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