Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Manager: Murray Refuses To Fight Gennady

[BafanaBafana]

Stieglitz, kessler, froch, ward, bika, the dirrell brothers, Rodriguez. even shot abraham.


& you name me murray barker & qullian

you're right bro.........160 is just as good as 168.

Andre Dirrell hasn't fought in a year and the last meaningful fight he had (against Abraham) was 2010. Anthony Dirrell has looked really bad since his accident, I actually think an old shot Bika could beat him. Abraham as you say is shot to pieces and never belonged at the weight anyway. Kessler is shot. Stiglietz is a nobody with no signature wins who got KO'd twice by a couple bums (Andrade and Berrio..)

Ward and Froch are the only legitimately tough guys in the division so far. It think Rodriguez could be decent from what I've seen from him (looked like **** against Maderna though) we'll see how Ward handles him.

[HeroBando]

I'm not saying the fights should happen in feb or immediately.......I'm saying that he should move up because 160 is a crap division. his team claims that no one will fight him at 160 anyway. his chances greatly increase for a super fight at 168 (ward, kessler, froch) what he should do right now is move up & test the waters against a guy like abraham. & the ward fight will definitely happen.......hbo is already trying to build it. but with team golovkin refusing to campaign at 168 how much of a chance does it actually has being made? one guy is refusing to move up.......btw golovkins manager wants ward to come down to 160.

WTF? You're full of ****. Show me a single offer to fight at 168 that he's passed on. How the fcuk are you gonna convince AA to step in the ring with him? You bringing him up just shows you're clueless and shooting from the hip. GTFO with this Mickey Mouse promoting

[NearHypnos]

Aside from ward and froch who is at 168? Nobody!

Golovkin has a lot of competition at 160, it's just that they are all ducking him. martinez, quillin, murray, barker are great fights to make at 160. Sooner or later some of these guys will have nowhere to run. And golovkin is an average sized MW. There's no reason for him to move up and be undersized when he still has unfinished business at 160. Just doesn't make any sense to move up right now.

Quillin with Sho and Martinez isnt even back from injury. He's also a bigger name and could possibly land a Canelo/Cotto fight and still has to dealwith Rubio's annoying ass. Barker is busy, Murray is not but you cant force him to fight GGG it seems. GGG isnt average sized at middle he's got some size on him. He's no pavlik or jr but he could effectively move up. Only guys like Ward and Froch would have a noticeable size adv but otherwise he has the frame if he could land a catchweight fight to move up slowly. Why is everyone expected to move up except GGG? I think he's the truth and I feel he'd have success. He's more skilled than Froch, Bika, etc and those would be damn good fights. If he cant find a good op at middle he'll have to move up unless he plans on playing the waiting game. Chavez jr has showed interest and Bika would fight anyone. There's others at 168 who would also jump at the chance. Martinez moved up in his mid 30s despite being a natural 54, Floyd moves up for the right fight, Pac moved up, Marquez moved up, every damn body moves up when they really want the right fights! If he wants to be in that category of dudes in this day and age with the "cold war" going then he's going to have to. GGG himself is open to it. Thats the way it goes. Martinez isnt even healthy and if he lands Cotto and wins he's tied up with Rubio...and if he doesnt get Cotto he's tied up with Rubio anyway and would almost definitely be fighting Cotto/Nelo after unless the got Floyd. He's NOT going to get Quillin due to politics either. He's too good to be wasting his prime away waiting for fights that probably will never happen due to the nature of the game.

I got faith in GGG think he's a stud and he should take a stab at the right 168 guy (even a catch weight) to put them on notice and negotiate between both classes and if he lands a big fight first at 168 then he could have that as leverage. He doesnt necessarily have to fight Ward...but if the opportunity comes knocking, he'll be ready (ala Martinez-Pavlik)

[Godsfly]

lol, why is Ward still at SMW? You're talking about moving up if there's nothing there for you and there are two perfectly good opponents he hasn't beaten yet on HBO waiting at LHW.
Don't know if Bika is with GBP or not, but he's about to fight Anthony.
Don't even mention his brother
Rodriguez turned down a fight with GOlovkin already last year
Stieglitz and Abraham aren't taking any big fights until they face each other which has been planned since Abraham got KO'd
Froch said he's open to it and the fight can be made next year

Fights that are in MW

Geale
Barker
Murray
Martinez
Pirog if he makes his return
Korobov if Arum lets him

So yea, fights aren't as good but he's trying to clean it out like ward did with his. Ward seems to just be sitting in his though and bringing down LHW's instead of moving up

thats where you're wrong little grasshopper. I WANT to see ward move up to light heavy and fight kovolav & stevonson. but i also want to see him fight golovkin first.......I definitely want to see golovkin move up because his team claims everyone ducks him at 160 & it's a weak division to begin with.


you basically just denounced why no one at 168 is worthy of fighting golovkin

Rodriguez turned down the fight because Rodriguez IS GREEDY. he wants a million dollar pay day (thats why the ward fight was at a risk of not happening. he wanted a million dollars & he finally got it) if Rodriguez loses to ward he'll be put back in his place & golovkin vs Rodriguez bout is very possible.



a move to 168 would open up more fights and the comp would also be better (so the fans also win)

why are some fans so scared to let this man go up to 168. take your t*t out of his mouth and stop babying him..........golovkin is a professional fighter (who you believe is one of the greatest in the entire sport to date) LOL @ all of the excuses

[US Dirk Killer]

I'm not saying the fights should happen in feb or immediately.......I'm saying that he should move up because 160 is a crap division. his team claims that no one will fight him at 160 anyway. his chances greatly increase for a super fight at 168 (ward, kessler, froch) what he should do right now is move up & test the waters against a guy like abraham. & the ward fight will definitely happen.......hbo is already trying to build it. but with team golovkin refusing to campaign at 168 how much of a chance does it actually has being made? one guy is refusing to move up.......btw golovkins manager wants ward to come down to 160.

So much B.S it stinks

Tommy Gun

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-vs-oosthuizen-talks-deal-not-done---58910

Edwin Rodriguez

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-trainer-edwin-rodriguez-turned-down-500k--59295

And remember when Murray never got an offer too.... Hatton probably should have kept it quite that he did get an offer so it didn't look like there was a lack of communication between the two

[Godsfly]

Andre Dirrell hasn't fought in a year and the last meaningful fight he had (against Abraham) was 2010. Anthony Dirrell has looked really bad since his accident, I actually think an old shot Bika could beat him. Abraham as you say is shot to pieces and never belonged at the weight anyway. Kessler is shot. Stiglietz is a nobody with no signature wins who got KO'd twice by a couple bums (Andrade and Berrio..)

Ward and Froch are the only legitimately tough guys in the division so far. It think Rodriguez could be decent from what I've seen from him (looked like **** against Maderna though) we'll see how Ward handles him.

i agree bro.....NO ONE is worthy of fighting golovkin at 168. no one...........

[BafanaBafana]

i agree bro.....NO ONE is worthy of fighting golovkin at 168. no one...........

I don't give a damn about what GGG does (I'm not even a fan), but the 168 is immensely overrated. Most of those guys are **** (except Ward and Froch), I couldn't see any of those guys moving up to 175 and dominating.

[Hougigo]

I don't give a damn about what GGG does (I'm not even a fan), but the 168 is immensely overrated. Most of those guys are **** (except Ward and Froch), I couldn't see any of those guys moving up to 175 and dominating.

I thought Ward should've moved up to 175 and beat Dawson again.... I still think he can beat Stevenson.
Bika got gifted a belt, no dis*****g that, that's Andre's

[Godsfly]

So much B.S it stinks

Tommy Gun

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-vs-oosthuizen-talks-deal-not-done---58910

Edwin Rodriguez

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-trainer-edwin-rodriguez-turned-down-500k--59295

And remember when Murray never got an offer too.... Hatton probably should have kept it quite that he did get an offer so it didn't look like there was a lack of communication between the two

I don't think the oosthizen fight was serious.......(as DiBella said. only brief conversation)

golovkin doesn't need oosthizen to fight at 168.

& Rodriguez wanted more money.........(the same thing he did to ward)

next...........

[MDPopescu]

All of them will continue to duck him (arguing that "he didn't fight anybody", "he didn't prove himself") until he's like 32 or 33 and exasperated... Then they will conclude that he was a "hype job"...