Ring Says Pacquiao is #1 Super Featherweight

[Bombardier]

Pac deserves the rating, but the whole situation in the divisions in that weight range is so muddled anyway. Let's not forget that Pac was a Ring champ originally until he moved up.

Neither Barrera-Morales, nor the Pac-Morales fights produced any Ring champions because they kept falling in and out of divisions, but I don't think anyone would dispute that these were three of the most important fights of the past couple of years. You could even make a case that they were the top three most important fights.

The problem is that there are still too many divisions, and the Ring system doesn't take that into account. It should elimiate all the unncessary ones and rank guys under maybe 10 classes.

[Mr. Ryan]

Ring Magazine Editor-in-Chief Nigel Collins says Filipino ring idol and national treasure Manny Pacquiao has jumped to the No.1 spot in the 130 pound ratings displacing Marco Antonio Barrera who dropped to No.2 but that Pacquiao is not yet considered the champion. [details]

At this moment, I can't conceive anyone beating Pacquiao under 135, and only Marquez would give him a serious fight. Unfortunately, Marquez loves his belt too much. The WBA belt defines his career.

[Kimmy]

JMM is not a tune up. Its threads like these that make me happy if Pac loses. Not that i have any hate against pac but i hate the way people jump on the band wagon everytime a fighter they like has some success.
Tyson fans are the worst. i loved it when Kevin McBride, who is a very poor fighter, beat Tyson into submission. Still some still claim Tyson is coming bck and will dominate.
Fair enough pac won big and on merit, he is an excellent fighter no doubt. But change the record. And most of all, favouring your fighter is not a crime but favouring your fighter because you think he is unbeatable ( and Pac is certainly not unbeatable ) is one sided and dare i say, shallow. JMM is not a walk over, Pac may beat him, i think he might but comments like `oh, Pac is gonna destory him blah blah` just sound ******ed!

[Mr. Ryan]

JMM is not a tune up. Its threads like these that make me happy if Pac loses. Not that i have any hate against pac but i hate the way people jump on the band wagon everytime a fighter they like has some success.
Tyson fans are the worst. i loved it when Kevin McBride, who is a very poor fighter, beat Tyson into submission. Still some still claim Tyson is coming bck and will dominate.
Fair enough pac won big and on merit, he is an excellent fighter no doubt. But change the record. And most of all, favouring your fighter is not a crime but favouring your fighter because you think he is unbeatable ( and Pac is certainly not unbeatable ) is one sided and dare i say, shallow. JMM is not a walk over, Pac may beat him, i think he might but comments like `oh, Pac is gonna destory him blah blah` just sound ******ed!

Do you also root against Cotto, Klitschko, Tyson, Barrera, andevery other national hero?

[Manny_P]

JMM is not a tune up. Its threads like these that make me happy if Pac loses. Not that i have any hate against pac but i hate the way people jump on the band wagon everytime a fighter they like has some success.
Tyson fans are the worst. i loved it when Kevin McBride, who is a very poor fighter, beat Tyson into submission. Still some still claim Tyson is coming bck and will dominate.
Fair enough pac won big and on merit, he is an excellent fighter no doubt. But change the record. And most of all, favouring your fighter is not a crime but favouring your fighter because you think he is unbeatable ( and Pac is certainly not unbeatable ) is one sided and dare i say, shallow. JMM is not a walk over, Pac may beat him, i think he might but comments like `oh, Pac is gonna destory him blah blah` just sound ******ed!

Pac is unbeatable right now!!!!!!!!!!

[Chups]

I hope that MAB will fight Pac this year. I can't wait for this to happen.

It will be the biggest fight in 130 lbs with lots of money.

Instead of the $313,000 he pocketed knocking Morales out...this time he's gonna get $315,00 knocking Barrera out. LOL
Damn managers.

[Mr. Ryan]

Instead of the $313,000 he pocketed knocking Morales out...this time he's gonna get $315,00 knocking Barrera out. LOL
Damn managers.

Thats nothing. I once had a trainer who did nothing when someone stole my shoes. They cost 35 bucks!

[Kimmy]

Pac deserves the rating

Bull****, Manny pac does not deserve his rating of number 1, number two i might buy but not one. It is clearly Barrera.
Ok....stopped screaming manny pac fans long enough for me to explain this one.

Barrera is WBC/IBF super featherweight champ, agreed. He defeated Erik Morales who at the time was the linar Super featherweight champ. Barrera hasn't lost since. he is the linar super featherweight champ. Morales beat Pac and lost the rematch. By all means i believe manny is the undisputed number one contender to the title that Barrera holds.

Right, allot of you are saying by now that Pac beat Barrera. True, but he did so at featherweight. If Manny returns to featherweight, i wil consider him the linar featherweight champion. However, regardless whom you think would win Vs Manny and Barrera in a rematch at super feather the fact remains that Barrera beat the super feather champ and hasn't lost. Manny lost to Morales, a man coming off a loss to Barrera. See the lodgic?
Just because Manny beat Barrera at featherweight doesn't give him the right to claim status over Barrera at super featherweight. Barrera has done more at super feather and deserves his number one ranking at this weight. if both returned to featherweight and fought, i`d consider Manny the champ and not barrera. Its not the titles i`m concerned about, it's the notion of Barrera having to concide ranking to a man who, compared to Barrera has not that impressive record at super featherweight ( 2 - 1 - 0 ).
Manny might yet beat Barrera at super feather but untill he does he isn't the true champ, Barrera has fought more and done more at super featherweight!

[GunStar]

JMM is not a tune up. Its threads like these that make me happy if Pac loses. Not that i have any hate against pac but i hate the way people jump on the band wagon everytime a fighter they like has some success.
Tyson fans are the worst. i loved it when Kevin McBride, who is a very poor fighter, beat Tyson into submission. Still some still claim Tyson is coming bck and will dominate.
Fair enough pac won big and on merit, he is an excellent fighter no doubt. But change the record. And most of all, favouring your fighter is not a crime but favouring your fighter because you think he is unbeatable ( and Pac is certainly not unbeatable ) is one sided and dare i say, shallow. JMM is not a walk over, Pac may beat him, i think he might but comments like `oh, Pac is gonna destory him blah blah` just sound ******ed!

You should also mention all the Hatton & Barrera fans, lets not forget when he beat Tszyu. It was crazy, thread after thread was about Hatton or when Barrera beat Hamed.

[Mr. Ryan]

Bull****, Manny pac does not deserve his rating of number 1, number two i might buy but not one. It is clearly Barrera.
Ok....stopped screaming manny pac fans long enough for me to explain this one.

Barrera is WBC/IBF super featherweight champ, agreed. He defeated Erik Morales who at the time was the linar Super featherweight champ. Barrera hasn't lost since. he is the linar super featherweight champ. Morales beat Pac and lost the rematch. By all means i believe manny is the undisputed number one contender to the title that Barrera holds.

Right, allot of you are saying by now that Pac beat Barrera. True, but he did so at featherweight. If Manny returns to featherweight, i wil consider him the linar featherweight champion. However, regardless whom you think would win Vs Manny and Barrera in a rematch at super feather the fact remains that Barrera beat the super feather champ and hasn't lost. Manny lost to Morales, a man coming off a loss to Barrera. See the lodgic?
Just because Manny beat Barrera at featherweight doesn't give him the right to claim status over Barrera at super featherweight. Barrera has done more at super feather and deserves his number one ranking at this weight. if both returned to featherweight and fought, i`d consider Manny the champ and not barrera. Its not the titles i`m concerned about, it's the notion of Barrera having to concide ranking to a man who, compared to Barrera has not that impressive record at super featherweight ( 2 - 1 - 0 ).
Manny might yet beat Barrera at super feather but untill he does he isn't the true champ, Barrera has fought more and done more at super featherweight!

I think the point they are trying to make is that Pacquiao holds a KO victory over Morales and Barrera, and would beat Barrera again if they fought. Plus Pacquiao has been much more impressive as of late than has Barrera. If Barrera fought the way he did recently at 122 or 126, he would not be a Mexican icon. He would be Juan Manuel Marquez.