Every Boxers Should Fight 4 Times a Year... Right?

[Jack Napier]

at the top level it's hard to sustain that activity
promoters, managers, and networks gotta put the fights together
fighters gotta heal injuries, rest, make weight properly, etc
this kinda activity would be great for boxing but it's not realistic
if a guy can reel off quick KO's without taking damage, maybe
but not many ranked guys can get relevant fights so often

[Kris Silver]

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This isnt an opinion, there are only so many PPV events that people will pay for, hence why most cards are on regular TV and not PPV. a great example is GB making the Broner card a regular tv event. Its always been a balancing act

Networks dont put on PPVs, promoters do.

instead of 2 PPV's at $50 each or whatever, have 4 at $25 each. The guy buying 1 of the 2 fights at $50, likely still spends $50 on 2 very slightly lesser cards...instead.

This was purely an example I don't think your taking at least a slight point on. The US has pushed towards quite a high price for PPV's, whereas slightly more PPV's for a lesser price, and a slightly lesser card...could likely pull in similar earnings overall.

In any case, the UK and other countries have much less PPV's, so why is the activity rate similar? That to me indicates the PPV doesn't &/or needn't dictate the sport so much, and the other 3 bullet points are also key in-activity reasonings.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

instead of 2 PPV's at $50 each or whatever, have 4 at $25 each. The guy buying 1 of the 2 fights at $50, likely still spends $50 on 2 very slightly lesser cards...instead.

This was purely an example I don't think your taking at least a slight point on. The US has pushed towards quite a high price for PPV's, whereas slightly more PPV's for a lesser price, and a slightly lesser card...could likely pull in similar earnings.

In any case, the UK and other countries have much less PPV's, so why is the activity rate similar? That to me indicates the PPV don't/needn't dictate the sport so much, and the other 3 bullet points are also key in-activity reasonings.

Novel idea, but a promoter has to have a marketable fight and fighters to even do that. I think that is a point you are not seeing. 1.5 million people may have watched Golovkin, but not many of them are going to pay 25 bucks in addition to their HBO sub with other major PPV events happening during the year.

Then there is the effort of putting on a PPV...since promoters get over half of the buy revenue ripped by cable companies...they have to charge a higher price to make a profit.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

3 times minimum should be the standard for elite/higher echelon fighters. Especially considering the amount of money they make for themselves and the network.

Networks don't have as big a budget as they used to for their boxing programs because the activity of their most popular fighters. Nowadays too many things prevent fights, and once some of the bigger fighters get a taste of the bigger money, they won't settle for less, so they don't fight as often. In turn, decreasing the networks revenue.

I honestly believe the biggest downfall of today's stars in boxing is their activity level. Notice how all the "hype-jobs" drop like flies in comparison to the past? As soon as they get a feel of the big money, their ability stops improving, and complacency begins to hinder their progression. Today's fighters get overpaid way too soon in their careers, lowering their incentive to be the best that they can be.

Let's also remember that a training camp on average is about 2 months. I'm no genius, but that essentially means they work 6 months out of the year for the incredible money they make on top of that.

Some notable fighters who stay on top with activity:
Alvarez, Golovkin, Matthysse, Donaire, Carlos Molina, Adamek

[Craveman]

you should actaully look at robinson's resume before you talk about it, doggie.

I have. So what's the problem? I don't remember every detail.

[thuggery]

3-4 for guys who are big names or are close to being a big name but aren't on PPV

2 is fine for guys who are on PPV.

[Furn]

I've always wondered why fighters fights infrequently, I get Pac and May doing it as they make heaps but the non Ppv fighters who make 1mil a fight max should be fighting 4-5 a Times a year while they are on their prime and them get out data decent age.

CChris Eubank defended his title 17 Times in 3 years in his prime.

[cupocity303]

instead of 2 PPV's at $50 each or whatever, have 4 at $25 each. The guy buying 1 of the 2 fights at $50, likely still spends $50 on 2 very slightly lesser cards...instead.

This was purely an example I don't think your taking at least a slight point on. The US has pushed towards quite a high price for PPV's, whereas slightly more PPV's for a lesser price, and a slightly lesser card...could likely pull in similar earnings overall.

In any case, the UK and other countries have much less PPV's, so why is the activity rate similar? That to me indicates the PPV doesn't &/or needn't dictate the sport so much, and the other 3 bullet points are also key in-activity reasonings.

So, a fighter is supposed to go through two training camps, both at a minimum of four weeks. Two fights for two smaller paydays, that he could get in one fight with one PPV?

Heck, if we're just gonna be fans, why not go all in and have them fight 12 times per year, with 12 ppv's at 5.99 each.

[cupocity303]

I've always wondered why fighters fights infrequently, I get Pac and May doing it as they make heaps but the non Ppv fighters who make 1mil a fight max should be fighting 4-5 a Times a year while they are on their prime and them get out data decent age.

CChris Eubank defended his title 17 Times in 3 years in his prime.

They're on the shelf, that's why they don't fight.

Some of Don King's fighters get benched for a whole year because he didn't make them a priority. Then there is the pride factor. I.E. Winky Wright could have fought a lot more prior to his retirement, had he lowered his standards as far as purse demands, but he felt he was above it with his kind of resume. Hence the long layoff's.

[New England]

I have. So what's the problem? I don't remember every detail.

robinson, like virtually every other championship level fighter of the day, took "stay busy" fights to earn money. fighters today don't need that. they wouldn't even get onto the networks fighting these cans, so why bother?

fights in robinson's day didn't depend on TV money. almost all of their purses came from live gates.


to answer the question in the original post, they current rate of figthing is what gets them paid the best in the long term in the current climate of network driven purses.