Where do you have GGG in your P4P rankings?

[SouthPawHitman]

I think Mayweather and GGG are the two best fighters in the world pfp. Mayweather gets the number one spot because he has proven he is the best many times.I believe GGG is as good as Mayweather pfp but the other top middleweights need to get their courage up and fight him so he has a chance to prove it.

Excellent post.

[PulpFriction]

If he fights and defeats Froch i think it's safe to say he is #6 pfp with Floyd, Ward, Gonzalez, Wlad, and Rigo all ahead of him.

[daggum]

If he fights and defeats Froch i think it's safe to say he is #6 pfp with Floyd, Ward, Gonzalez, Wlad, and Rigo all ahead of him.

wlad's a cheat so no and rigo has one good win. he's not even fighting top 10 guys. if ggg beats froch he will be miles ahead of rigo in resume.

[Eastcoast]

If he fights and defeats Froch i think it's safe to say he is #6 pfp with Floyd, Ward, Gonzalez, Wlad, and Rigo all ahead of him.

If Golovkin beats Froch, how do you justify Rigo ahead of him? And how do justify Ward ahead of Klitschko?

[Lords]

Right now, if GGG is in your top 10 you better have Wilder in there too.

[Eastcoast]

Right now, if GGG is in your top 10 you better have Wilder in there too.

How do you figure? Golovkin's beaten 6 top 10 MW's (2 of whom were top 5), and another 4-5 top 25 MW's. Wilder has one win over a top 10 HW and another 1-2 wins over top 25 HW's.

[HEND]

Somewhere from 8 to 14... or so
Sorry but my only measure stick is the "current" resume (their last 4-5 fights) of the fighters I don't give a damn about eye test. And maybe Golovkin beats these opponents impressively but in my scoring system Canelo's win over Lara or Trout will put him above Golovkin simply because they were tougher opponents (in my opinion) than anybody Golovkin faced so far. So in my system level of opposition > how convincing he beat them. "how convincingly he beat them" is only getting interesting when the two guys have about the same resume and then the "convincingness" factor can be the decider. If that's equal as well then comes the "eye test".

Exception: When I think that a fight was a robbery. For example I rate Danny Garcia lower right now and Peterson higher because on my scorecard Danny lost that fight and he also drew with Herrera. So in my scoring system (not surprisingly) resumes based on my opinion > official resumes.

Oh yeah and if a fighter is inactive over a year I take him off of my lists. And one other thing: I won't rate down a fighter automatically if he loses to a fighter who was above him on the list even before the fight. That's why I don't rate Pacquioa lower after May second. It can be happen that Rigo, or the returner Ward gets above him with one-two good wins but only because Pac lost to Mayweather he won't be graded lower automatically.

So that's my rating system.

[Lords]

How do you figure? Golovkin's beaten 6 top 10 MW's (2 of whom were top 5), and another 4-5 top 25 MW's. Wilder has one win over a top 10 HW and another 1-2 wins over top 25 HW's.

The fighters in the top 10 in middle weight are just as bad as the bums Wilder has KO'd. It isn't saying much.

[therealpugilist]

He isn't in mine

1)Floyd Mayweather
2)Andre Ward(he is still the second best fighter overall in the game, yes he has been inactive but his resume surpasses a lot of others and he is still fresh and young, he'll come back strong)
3)Wladimir Klitschko
4)Roman Gonzalez
5) Guillermo Riogondeaux
6)Juan Francisco Estrada
7)Sergey Kovalev
8)Manny Pacquaio
9)Canelo Alvarez
10)Terrence Crawford


I don't look at all the ko's and the WBA trinket....he didn't beat anyone worth much for the title, never beat a champion for a title, has only faced and defeated 4 top ten contenders in almost 35 fights.....his level of competition for his age, skill set, and hype leaves much to be desired....he could be in Crawford's tenth spot, but Crawford has won titles the WBO titles at 135 and 140, was ring champion at lightweight

[Weebler I]

Somewhere from 8 to 14... or so
Sorry but my only measure stick is the "current" resume (their last 4-5 fights) of the fighters I don't give a damn about eye test. And maybe Golovkin beats these opponents impressively but in my scoring system Canelo's win over Lara or Trout will put him above Golovkin simply because they were tougher opponents (in my opinion) than anybody Golovkin faced so far. So in my system level of opposition > how convincing he beat them. "how convincingly he beat them" is only getting interesting when the two guys have about the same resume and then the "convincingness" factor can be the decider. If that's equal as well then comes the "eye test".

Exception: When I think that a fight was a robbery. For example I rate Danny Garcia lower right now and Peterson higher because on my scorecard Danny lost that fight and he also drew with Herrera. So in my scoring system (not surprisingly) resumes based on my opinion > official resumes.

Oh yeah and if a fighter is inactive over a year I take him off of my lists. And one other thing: I won't rate down a fighter automatically if he loses to a fighter who was above him on the list even before the fight. That's why I don't rate Pacquioa lower after May second. It can be happen that Rigo, or the returner Ward gets above him with one-two good wins but only because Pac lost to Mayweather he won't be graded lower automatically.

So that's my rating system.

I don't really keep a PFP list but the way I'd rate fighters is not that different from yours and I'm not high on the really low weights (under 122). A year inactive takes them off a list for me too.

A lot of these lists have held off on Golovkin and Kovalev for while, eventually they just said "fuck it, they're good" and put them in the top 5 or 10. I think I'd put Golovkin 7-10, Kovalev about 5-7 but as I said, I don't have a list.