Where do you have GGG in your P4P rankings?

[Suckmedry]

How? Won a vacant interim title, was promoted to champion and defended a bunch of fringe contenders. Hasn't beaten another champion.

Geale and Murray are not fringe contenders. Hater.

[Eastcoast]

Your brain doesn't work well does it.

I was saying that GGG is huge. As in "he's hardly tiny is he?" Understand now?? Sarcasm ? Heard of it?

Martinez was ****ing ripped for fighting those guys BY GGG FANS, who wanted that fight to happen(it should have, Sergio was a coward) but despite that Sergio was already shot( a Miguel Cotto fan admitting this) against Barker and Macklin and Sturm has been shot for years.

How can you watch GGG force Murray ( a huge MW) back and claim he is small? Size is not height you moron, look at how his body is shaped. Rio's has a flabby stomach at 147, He should be at 140 , he just doesn't have the discipline.

You've answered your own question, GGG is Rios at 135, he's just yet to move up.

You're just a troll. Did I bring up height? No you did. Again with you trying to make things up to support yourself. Good job. Golovkin doesn't kill himself to make MW. He's a big MW, but he's not killing himself to make the weight like Quillin or Jacobs. He rehyrdates into the low 170's like Alvarez and Lara do from JMW. Rios was skeleton at his weigh-ins for 135. Shit and desperate comparison on your part.

How convenient of you to claim Martinez was shot vs Barker and Macklin in order to disprove those guys for Golovkin. And how do you figure Sturm was shot vs Geale, Macklin, and Murray? He was always that type of fighter. Was he shot vs Randy Griffin too?

[Caught Square]

Top 10, i think the ring have him top 4 which is too high imo.

[Johnny Rubber]

Hard to say at the moment, but top ten.

[PivotandRoll]

You're just a troll. Did I bring up height? No you did. Again with you trying to make things up to support yourself. Good job. Golovkin doesn't kill himself to make MW. He's a big MW, but he's not killing himself to make the weight like Quillin or Jacobs. He rehyrdates into the low 170's like Alvarez and Lara do from JMW. Rios was skeleton at his weigh-ins for 135. Shit and desperate comparison on your part.

How convenient of you to claim Martinez was shot vs Barker and Macklin in order to disprove those guys for Golovkin. And how do you figure Sturm was shot vs Geale, Macklin, and Murray? He was always that type of fighter. Was he shot vs Randy Griffin too?

I am not a troll. How does the fact that GGG remains in fighting shape mean he is not big? Was Margs not huge for 147? He never drained himself.

You will do anything to Justify GGG's **** resume

[Eastcoast]

I am not a troll. How does the fact that GGG remains in fighting shape mean he is not big? Was Margs not huge for 147? He never drained himself.

You will do anything to Justify GGG's **** resume

You implied Golovkin is a SMW shrinking down to MW when he is not. You say he forced back Murray for 11 rounds as evidence that he's too big for the division when it's actually proof that he's not. He forced Murray back with his punches, not by leaning on him. If Golovkin was draining himself to make 160 he never would've be able to sustain that attack for 11 rounds and let alone carry his power that late as well.

So now you're giving up on Rios and switching to Margarito? Tony was a big WW and eventually he did outgrow the division after the long lay off following his win over Cotto. But before that he was a legit WW as supported when he tried moving up to JMW against Santos and only rehydrated into the high 150's.

What is there to justify about Golovkin's resume? It is what it is. Not great, not special, but still very good. He's only fought decent fighters, but he's destroyed them with his skill. He's not a weight class bigger than his opponents like you've tried to imply.

[just the facts]

Lomenchenko with a total of 5 fights has a better resume than ggg. With ZERO quality wins, you can't put ggg in the top 10

[PivotandRoll]

You implied Golovkin is a SMW shrinking down to MW when he is not. You say he forced back Murray for 11 rounds as evidence that he's too big for the division when it's actually proof that he's not. He forced Murray back with his punches, not by leaning on him. If Golovkin was draining himself to make 160 he never would've be able to sustain that attack for 11 rounds and let alone carry his power that late as well.

So now you're giving up on Rios and switching to Margarito? Tony was a big WW and eventually he did outgrow the division after the long lay off following his win over Cotto. But before that he was a legit WW as supported when he tried moving up to JMW against Santos and only rehydrated into the high 150's.

What is there to justify about Golovkin's resume? It is what it is. Not great, not special, but still very good. He's only fought decent fighters, but he's destroyed them with his skill. He's not a weight class bigger than his opponents like you've tried to imply.

And I suppose Gamboa and Crawford were the same size?? Both made LW right? NO that's not how the sport works.

Where did I say he was a SMW? I said he's a huge MW, the same way Hagler was a huge MW but not a SMW. I'm saying you don't have to kill yourself to be huge at a weight.

His resume is terrible. He's 33. I don't care how long he was in the amateurs, so was Lara and Rigo and they have fought much better fighters with what is considered a hard style to sell.

I didn't drop Rios, because I never had him, I was using a fighter as an example, but you think it's your fighter versus mine, it's not. I'm not saying GGG is bad to justify anything. If he KO's Cotto in 1 round his resume is still ****. But you actually want to give him credit for beating a past it fighter who is chancing his arm trying to make money.

If somehow Pirog comes back and proves he still has it, that's a win I will give credit for.

[PivotandRoll]

Lomenchenko with a total of 5 fights has a better resume than ggg. With ZERO quality wins, you can't put ggg in the top 10

YES!!! This is what I mean.

[Eastcoast]

And I suppose Gamboa and Crawford were the same size?? Both made LW right? NO that's not how the sport works.

Where did I say he was a SMW? I said he's a huge MW, the same way Hagler was a huge MW but not a SMW. I'm saying you don't have to kill yourself to be huge at a weight.

His resume is terrible. He's 33. I don't care how long he was in the amateurs, so was Lara and Rigo and they have fought much better fighters with what is considered a hard style to sell.

I didn't drop Rios, because I never had him, I was using a fighter as an example, but you think it's your fighter versus mine, it's not. I'm not saying GGG is bad to justify anything. If he KO's Cotto in 1 round his resume is still ****. But you actually want to give him credit for beating a past it fighter who is chancing his arm trying to make money.

If somehow Pirog comes back and proves he still has it, that's a win I will give credit for.

Why do you bring up Crawford/Gamboa in regards to Golovkin? Both are very different. Crawford worked very hard to get down to 135. He stayed very discipline to keep himself near the weight and he's young enough to where he could do that. Golovkin is 33. He doesn't kill himself to make the weight. Gamboa is an inflated FW due to his extra muscle.

I don't care for Golovkin/Cotto. Cotto is too small for a regular MW, let alone a strong and skilled one like Golovkin. Cotto is only relevant for the title, beating a name like Cotto would raise Golovkin's marketability and open doors to more meaningful fights like Froch, Ward, Quillin, Alvarez, Lemieux, Jacobs, and the up and commers who might be good.