Tim Bradley is not elite

[Southpawology]

Ive been saying for a while now that bradley isnt P4P. Lost to manny, lost to ruslan. Marquez win is a great win I take nothing away from that. People overrate him though.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Ive been saying for a while now that bradley isnt P4P. Lost to manny, lost to ruslan. Marquez win is a great win I take nothing away from that. People overrate him though.

thats fine if you think that,,,, but i cant stand when people say such and such isnt p4p,, yet never list there p4p guys,,,,

what 10 guys do you have over him if tim aint p4p

[Calm down mate]

Well, you're opinion is wrong...

But in all seriousness, how can he possibly not be top 10 at 147? Who at 147 beats him? Only Manny and Floyd are for sure, everyone else at best is maybe

He did better against Manny than Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, and basically everyone Manny has fought above 130 other than Marquez, so clearly he's got something if it isn't skill

No power, sure, but neither does Floyd... Hell, neither does Muhammad Ali... What does that have to do about anything?

He isn't "slick" is kind of a single minded statement... He can fight in any style, so to say he's not slick just becuz he isn't always slick is being petty... He's been slick in all his fights but Provo, and his slickness simply wasn't effective against Manny becuz of Manny's physical gifts. Just becuz he gets hit doesn't mean he's not slick... I mean somebody recently made a thread saying JCC was slick, and if he's slick what is Bradley?

You're comparing him to, like, Roy Jones or something, he isn't on that level... But as far as THIS generation is concerned, he's elite.

Top 3 p4p? Maybe not, but top 10... Absolutely

U don't beat JMM fresh from knocking out Manny Pacquiao unless you have the skills to crack the top 10 on the p4p list

JMM was fresh off that good **** that's why he couldn't do **** lol. And JMM is and always will be overrated, apart from Pacquiao and Barrerra who did he beat? Oh yeah everyone else that they put in front of him because all of his losses were robberies

[The Gambler1981]

I think Bradley is an elite guy but there are big flaws in his game, he a decent boxer but he gets very wide and sloppy which tight punchers can take advantage of. He is also a decent inside fighter but he is not that good which is where Provodnikov killed him and while Bradley has boxing skills he is a stocky short guy so against bigger guys that can really box on the outside I think Bradley has real problems and he lacks the pop to pull a fight out of fire in that situation.


I guess it depends on your definition of elite he was one of the top guys in his class, I could see why people would say he is not elite because I do think he is at about the end of his rope. He is still a really good fighter all around though

[Sugar Adam Ali]

JMM was fresh off that good **** that's why he couldn't do **** lol. And JMM is and always will be overrated, apart from Pacquiao and Barrerra who did he beat? Oh yeah everyone else that they put in front of him because all of his losses were robberies

apart from 2 ATGs who did he beat,,, pretty much every featherweight in the early 2000s like gainer, and casamoyer, diaz twice, katsidis,,,, JMM has alot of high quality wins,,,

its obvious you DKSAB or just a troll

[Calm down mate]

apart from 2 ATGs who did he beat,,, pretty much every featherweight in the early 2000s like gainer, and casamoyer, diaz twice, katsidis,,,, JMM has alot of high quality wins,,,

its obvious you DKSAB or just a troll

Yeah I'm talking about above 135, above 135 he isn't all that.

He's a blown up lightweight who had Pac's number, never really belonged at 147 at all.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Yeah I'm talking about above 135, above 135 he isn't all that.

He's a blown up lightweight who had Pac's number, never really belonged at 147 at all.

ok, i will agree that jmm isnt a true welter, and probably wouldnt be there if it wasnt for manny,,,

but it was still a solid win for bradley, since manny was considered #1 and jmm iced him,, and then bradley beat jmm,,,

i wanna see jmm at 140 vs ruslan

[mathed]

I see people including him in their top P4P lists, what I don't understand is, why? He's not even one of the top 10 at 140/147 let alone top 10 P4P.

He's a solid fighter with a bit of everything, but he's not outstanding in any area. He's got heart and determination as well as good athleticism, but he hasn't got any specific boxing qualities that stand out. He's not a 'slick' boxer contrary to popular belief, he mixes it up and shows a bit of everything like I said, but the likes of Ward, Mayweather, Lara, Rigo are 'slick' and naturally gifted 'boxers', they're streets ahead of a pretender like Bradley.

A few questions for you:

1) Who do you consider to be elite at 140 and 147?

2) Who do you consider to be ahead of him on your p4p list?

3) How does he keep winning every fight?

[Calm down mate]

A few questions for you:

1) Who do you consider to be elite at 140 and 147?

2) Who do you consider to be ahead of him on your p4p list?

3) How does he keep winning every fight?

He gets gifts and beats ok fighters.

Robbed Pacquiao only morons think he won that, Marquez is overrated above 140, doesn't belong there and only fought there because he had Pac's number, he's a good B fighter that is it.

Plus he was out on his feet against Ruslan, very lucky that fight didn't get stopped.

[mathed]

what he did against marquez was impressive, but let's not forget that he lost to pacquiao and provodnikov. however, i still reckon he'd pose the greatest challenge to mayweather at the moment if the networks could somehow sort it out.

SMH.............too bad Ruslan doesn't agree with all you guys saying that though. Weird, I wonder why he isn't in agreement?