Standing 8 Count?

[DiegoFuego]

If only the ropes hold you up, the referee can use a standing 8 count (usually only when the guy looks dead like Wlad did). Technically, Bayless could have given Morales 2 when he grabbed the ropes...but it's rare

[psychopath]

One the standing 8 counts is not always in effect that why refs can't use it in some cases and as openly.

[psychopath]

If only the ropes hold you up, the referee can use a standing 8 count (usually only when the guy looks dead like Wlad did). Technically, Bayless could have given Morales 2 when he grabbed the ropes...but it's rare

Yeah because a standing a count will result in a 10-8 round score just like a KD and refs doesn't want to decide or be factor in the scorecards as much as possible.

In Morales/Pac II the standing 8 counts is not in effect.

[butterfly1964]

i thought a standing eight-count was the same as a mandatory eight-count.

[psychopath]

i thought a standing eight-count was the same as a mandatory eight-count.

An eight count is an eight count buddy. You call it standing eight count when the fighter is remains standing despite being badly hurt. And you call it mandatory when the fighter goes down because of a punch though he may not be hurt.

[BadMagick]

I think they should use it more often it seems like they are stopping fights quickly lately to avoid fighters getting hurt but they should instead of stopping the fight right away see if a standing 8 count will help the fighter in trouble be able to continue and then just deduct a point like you would if it were an actual KD..........But this is just my thoughts I am nterested to hear what others have to say about this.

I agree. I wish they'd put the rule into effect in more fights. In many cases, a stoppage would still happen, but at least give the guy a chance. A great example of when this rule should have been used was Castillo-Corralles I. Corralles goes down twice in a minute or so, and is allowed to continue. The INSTANT Castillo gets hurt, the fight is stopped. Why not give him a standing 8, and see if he can continue? If he looks bad, then call it, if he looks okay, let the fight go on. Of course, that might have destroyed one of the most epic fights in the history of boxing.

[psychopath]

I agree. I wish they'd put the rule into effect in more fights. In many cases, a stoppage would still happen, but at least give the guy a chance. A great example of when this rule should have been used was Castillo-Corralles I. Corralles goes down twice in a minute or so, and is allowed to continue. The INSTANT Castillo gets hurt, the fight is stopped. Why not give him a standing 8, and see if he can continue? If he looks bad, then call it, if he looks okay, let the fight go on. Of course, that might have destroyed one of the most epic fights in the history of boxing.

This rule is normally waived if it's a title fight or a unification fight.

[AintGottaClue]

i dont liek standing 8 counts, biased refs can use it to save a fighter in the worst possible time for an oppenet, if the guy is agaisnt the ropes not defending himself not throwing back and getting pummeled stop the fight dont give him a chance to recover unless he goes down

[keystone30pack]

I think they should use it more often it seems like they are stopping fights quickly lately to avoid fighters getting hurt but they should instead of stopping the fight right away see if a standing 8 count will help the fighter in trouble be able to continue and then just deduct a point like you would if it were an actual KD..........But this is just my thoughts I am nterested to hear what others have to say about this.

agree but does anyone know why they aren't utilized more often

your post was right on

[Rockin']

Its a saftey iussue. With the Association Of Boxing Commisions unified rules, which I am proud to be a part of, there is no standing 8 count for this reason. If a man is being hurt enough to have to step in then the fight should just be stopped. What is the point of having him sustain the damage and then stepping in and giving him 8 seconds to recover. What damage was done will still be present in the fighter after the count. It is about keeping it safe and not letting him continue in HOPES that he will get better. Its better to err on the side of saftey then to let it go and have him possibly seriously injured.

8 seconds will not stop a hemmorage or bleeding of the brain. If they are being beaten then stop it and let them come back to fight another day speaking the same way tomorrow as they did the day of the fight.

Rockin'